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03-Jul-2013 - Vorago: High-Level Boss Fight


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I am typically all for higher risk (aka no graves/easier to lose items) but this time I really hope Jagex rolls back all the people that lost their gear... :( Don't make the same mistake you did with qbd.

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They really should have traits which are consistent, for both boss attacks and items, with little highlights that show what ignores what.

It'd be cool if we could like have a "debug" like window that pops up and shows us what effects an attack has like "ignores prayer, ignores xyz ability etc".

The problem is that having all these conditions all the time is really annoying, especially when we can't actually tell without just "knowing"

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Its funny that people think this kind of ability is over powered, it functions just fine in WoW and other mmos, with a long enough cool down 120 second+ there is nothing wrong with getting a free pass every now and then. It becomes skill to choose when to use it. The main thing rs is missing in terms of boss fights is the fact that the "team work" required still only effects the individual player, aside from the concept of provoking off. All the abilities you can only use on yourself. Something like an ability that procs and aura that provides momentary dmg reduction or increase healing from food increases the team dynamic tenfold, you need to know when people are using what and were you are in relation to them. Till player/player interaction with abilities comes in they won't have a good "boss" mechanic to use.

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Still curious at what the magic damage cap raising has done.

Does this mean virtus wand/book barrage in abyss exp per hr has greatly increased since damage comes from spell, not weapon?

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Dardan and company got to final phase again. Instantly DC'd. Seriously Jagex?

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I'm DC'ing almost constantly and I'm not even at the bloody boss...what is going on!?!
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Yeah it's pretty clear that the final attack crashes the world

Gonna lose so much shit because of this

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Just tested mage @ abyss, and im now getting around 150-200k less exp per hr even with the "damage cap increase".

Guess the AoE change really severely nerfed things, wonder if it's even viable for slayer much anymore to mage instead of melee

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Lost 2 chaotics and like 15m. Nothing compared to what other people lost, but still makes me mad as hell.

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Tried to Vorago with an all pro team. Got to first phase. Died. Looted grave. Dc. Good fight. I am not trying this guy anymore today. I am lucky not to have lost several hundreds of millions like some other guys did (didn't get back to grave). And now the worlds are just crazy.
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Just tested mage @ abyss, and im now getting around 150-200k less exp per hr even with the "damage cap increase".

Guess the AoE change really severely nerfed things, wonder if it's even viable for slayer much anymore to mage instead of melee


I noticed a difference with wand + book doing slayer. Chaotic staff is much better now with abilities.

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What he meant to say is 'defensive abilities were designed to be used on normal monsters'.

Defence is never used for normal monsters. If you think defence is for normal monsters, you need to review your setups.

But yeah Alg (TVT) nailed it. It's a real shame virtually every single special power in RS is of that type. Stuns, poison, stat drain, spirit shields, damage reduction abilities, percent damage attacks (these got removed because they sucked on regular monsters and capped on bosses), anti-stun abilities (there aren't enough, and KK green attack even disables them), Disrupt Shield (doesn't work when maging, ironically), reflect damage - all of these are really really awesome, but sadly PvP only because bosses have to stay boring.

When bosses use things that we also use, they still cheat - KQ and TD protect prayers are 100% (and KQ was even weirder before that) and they don't have to restore prayer, and Nex doesn't have to restore prayer either, plus that she reflects much more than we do with deflects.

I also asked Chaose why they aren't designing bosses using 'real' abilities and he said something like 'we just released a boss, give us a break'. He seemed to think that defensive abilities are useful enough even though they don't work on specials. I feel that defensive abilities ought to be useful, and that bosses are powerful despite them, but ok.
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Lost 2 chaotics and like 15m. Nothing compared to what other people lost, but still makes me mad as hell.

Ouch. This is exactly the kind of thing why I avoid PVM like the plague right after updates.

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From a risk vs reward standpoint, it makes sense to kill on the first day. If it were possible to kill it, I would probably have a 1b bank after killing it for 30 hours like I planned.

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Lost 2 chaotics and like 15m. Nothing compared to what other people lost, but still makes me mad as hell.

Ouch. This is exactly the kind of thing why I avoid PVM like the plague right after updates.


This would be the positive side of not liking boss hunting...you quit while you are ahead. I feel bad for everyone else thou
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From a risk vs reward standpoint, it makes sense to kill on the first day. If it were possible to kill it, I would probably have a 1b bank after killing it for 30 hours like I planned.

True, but this kind of shit can happen regardless of if there is a shiny new drop in the update.

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Proof that just talking about Vorago and disconnecting will, infact, disconnect you.

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