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Nex is clearly sleeping with the developers

Why make Nex obsolete?

Barrows, Dragon, Rune, Adamant, Mithril, Steel, Iron, Bronze among many others are not obsolete, and they don't need set effects or constant attention to stay relevant.

 

Just because it isn't the best doesn't mean it's obsolete

 

This. They could have even made port armor have a defensive effect, maybe 5% of damage removed like the spirit shield's effect but without the prayer drain. Both sets would then be useful.

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Saying Jagex is trying to make Nex sets not obsolete is not right. The reasons why PoP armors are never used isn't because of Nex armor set effects, or because the armor bonuses aren't enough. PoP armor is currently being made to be sold, not worn. The people buying them have money to burn or are either keepsaking or flipping them. They are nowhere near common and may remain uncommon for a very long time, especially if that 10 hour time limit persists. If PoP armor was a drop from something like KK that did not degrade to dust, or even if the tradeable version we have right now did not disappear after use, it would be worn regardless of Nex armor's pitiful set effects.

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Obsolete wasn't the word, Nex would be bossed much less because nex items would hit the floor, again. Only useful items would be wand/book/boots/gloves.

 

That's assuming the Port set's effect would just be a scaled up damage boost.

 

Also, while they're meddling trying to save nex from being deserted, they're steadily marching the requirements higher. In past couple months we've had I think the ranged prayer added and a power increase across the board. How about let the level 80s kill it Jagex?

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I just want my ports armour, which takes quite a bit of dedication to obtain, to be worth using *somewhere* and if possible at *lots of places*.

 

Ports armour *is* pretty expensive to use, and it can't be sold back after you're done with it - time spent getting full superior can't be recovered.

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Just another way to put the money in PvM'ers hands instead of the skillers. Same way it has been for years.

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Obsolete wasn't the word, Nex would be bossed much less because nex items would hit the floor, again. Only useful items would be wand/book/boots/gloves.

 

Is that a bad thing? >_>

Nexers would just go to KK/GWD bosses, I see complaints from many lower levelled players because of high levels camping GWD.

We need a boss that doesn't require mass teams/top end gear, a boss based on skill.

Ports armour could speed up rate of adrenaline or maybe something like damage/speed increases the longer you are in combat. This would make full use of the high defence while still not giving immediate boosts over Nex set effects, top-end however, ports gear would be very useful.

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Obsolete wasn't the word, Nex would be bossed much less because nex items would hit the floor, again. Only useful items would be wand/book/boots/gloves.

 

Is that a bad thing? >_>

Nexers would just go to KK/GWD bosses, I see complaints from many lower levelled players because of high levels camping GWD.

We need a boss that doesn't require mass teams/top end gear, a boss based on skill.

Ports armour could speed up rate of adrenaline or maybe something like damage/speed increases the longer you are in combat. This would make full use of the high defence while still not giving immediate boosts over Nex set effects, top-end however, ports gear would be very useful.

 

Qbd. Sadly, the drops are valued so low just because of these reasons. You get what you give.

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While I get the fear of making a boss/Nex obsolete, surely the same goes for PoP? If the armours turn out not to be worth it, ports will be dead very soon, with nobody wanting to invest months of time into the endeavour.

 

I tend to trust that Jagex will come around and adjust this situation. Eventually.

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Obsolete wasn't the word, Nex would be bossed much less because nex items would hit the floor, again. Only useful items would be wand/book/boots/gloves.

 

Is that a bad thing? >_>

Nexers would just go to KK/GWD bosses, I see complaints from many lower levelled players because of high levels camping GWD.

We need a boss that doesn't require mass teams/top end gear, a boss based on skill.

Ports armour could speed up rate of adrenaline or maybe something like damage/speed increases the longer you are in combat. This would make full use of the high defence while still not giving immediate boosts over Nex set effects, top-end however, ports gear would be very useful.

 

Qbd. Sadly, the drops are valued so low just because of these reasons. You get what you give.

Drops at QBD are almost useless, only good drops specific to QBD are the royal crossbow parts. QBD is also being botted and takes around 3mins to kill so a harder/more time consuming boss would be better.

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While I get the fear of making a boss/Nex obsolete, surely the same goes for PoP? If the armours turn out not to be worth it, ports will be dead very soon, with nobody wanting to invest months of time into the endeavour.

 

I tend to trust that Jagex will come around and adjust this situation. Eventually.

 

It's 10mins per day. It may take time to get the gear but it's very little investment.

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Honestly, the way I see it, for the average RS player who wants quick returns, it's a rather big investment. Why bother if there's no profit?

This is why there are so many people wishing for Nex armor to drop. Everyone wants things quickly and easily. These same people were wishing bandos armor would drop, and barrows and whips before that.

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Honestly, the way I see it, for the average RS player who wants quick returns, it's a rather big investment. Why bother if there's no profit?

This is why there are so many people wishing for Nex armor to drop. Everyone wants things quickly and easily. These same people were wishing bandos armor would drop, and barrows and whips before that.

 

Comparing apples to oranges. Nex literally takes (or took, pre-EOC; not sure what current prices are) 10x the amount of time/effort to obtain than barrows and whips did back in the day. Not to mention the fact that low lvls could complete barrows, just with less efficiency.

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While I get the fear of making a boss/Nex obsolete, surely the same goes for PoP? If the armours turn out not to be worth it, ports will be dead very soon, with nobody wanting to invest months of time into the endeavour.

 

I tend to trust that Jagex will come around and adjust this situation. Eventually.

For now PoP is the only place that can give you scrimshaws so even if the armor sucks it will stay relatively lively.

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Honestly, the way I see it, for the average RS player who wants quick returns, it's a rather big investment. Why bother if there's no profit?

This is why there are so many people wishing for Nex armor to drop. Everyone wants things quickly and easily. These same people were wishing bandos armor would drop, and barrows and whips before that.

 

Comparing apples to oranges. Nex literally takes (or took, pre-EOC; not sure what current prices are) 10x the amount of time/effort to obtain than barrows and whips did back in the day. Not to mention the fact that low lvls could complete barrows, just with less efficiency.

Pernix and virtus are pretty affordable right now, sure it takes longer to get than barrows but it is top gear at the moment.

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Honestly, the way I see it, for the average RS player who wants quick returns, it's a rather big investment. Why bother if there's no profit?

 

-10mins/day

-no gp needed

-halfway to 99 in just 3 of the 25 skills

 

If that is too much for you then have fun in your black dhide.

 

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Honestly, the way I see it, for the average RS player who wants quick returns, it's a rather big investment. Why bother if there's no profit?

 

-10mins/day

-no gp needed

-halfway to 99 in just 3 of the 25 skills

 

If that is too much for you then have fun in you're black dhide.

Judging by the way people post, a lot of people are fine with complaining in dhide.

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Honestly, the way I see it, for the average RS player who wants quick returns, it's a rather big investment. Why bother if there's no profit?

 

-10mins/day

-no gp needed

-halfway to 99 in just 3 of the 25 skills

 

If that is too much for you then have fun in you're black dhide.

 

No need to make it this personal. I'm talking about the average scaper. Skillers (like I've always been fyi) actually *need* those average "lazy" scapers to make profits. Jagex promoted PoP as a way for skillers to profit, similar to MTK... I do admit however that profiting isn't necessarily strictly limited to making money.

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Honestly, the way I see it, for the average RS player who wants quick returns, it's a rather big investment. Why bother if there's no profit?

 

-10mins/day

-no gp needed

-halfway to 99 in just 3 of the 25 skills

 

If that is too much for you then have fun in you're black dhide.

Judging by the way people post, a lot of people are fine with complaining in dhide.

People measure herb farming in gp/hour only counting the time in which the herb run is done. I don't see why it doesn't apply to POP as well, sure it may be a bit more difficult, but it can be done roughly.

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Honestly, the way I see it, for the average RS player who wants quick returns, it's a rather big investment. Why bother if there's no profit?

 

-10mins/day

-no gp needed

-halfway to 99 in just 3 of the 25 skills

 

If that is too much for you then have fun in you're black dhide.

 

No need to make it this personal. I'm talking about the average scaper. Skillers (like I've always been fyi) actually *need* those average "lazy" scapers to make profits. Jagex promoted PoP as a way for skillers to profit... I do admit however that profiting isn't necessarily strictly limited to making money.

 

I do not mean you as in you personally. Meant it the same way you did.

I am not a skiller, but i do some skills.

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