sa121 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 EDIT: This main post is still okay for getting a basic gist of how to NMZ, but I have a lot of hard data in the comments that is useful too. This guide will be overhauled once I get the time for it. So, if you play OSRS, you've probably heard by now about the quick, 100% afk xp you can get in the Nightmare Zone (NMZ), but you might not know how to take advantage of it. Well, here's a quick, basic guide on how to do so. Set-up: There's two ways to go about the set-up, dharoking or whip/scimming Dharok's set up: Full DH (duh)Zerker i>Zerker>Warrior i> Warrior > anyFury>Glory>God stole>otherBarrows gloves/best you can get>combat braceRune Boots=climber bootsFire cape>trimmed skill cape> skill cape/obby> legends Other set up:Dscim/whip>other weaponsProssy top>monk robeProssy bot>=monk robeZerker i>Zerker>Warrior i> Warrior > anyFury>Glory>God stole>otherBarrows gloves/best you can get>combat braceRune Boots=climber bootsFire cape>trimmed skill cape> skill cape/obby> legendsRune defender> DFS > others Inventory: Dharoks inventory:Rock cakeDDS (optional)Coins (for coffer and paying booster)Holy Wrench (optional) (can be replaced with extra prayer potion)6x Overload (4) (obtained by paying 1.5k NMZ points/dose, can only be used in the minigame)19 Prayer potions (4) Other inventory:DDSCoins (for coffer and paying booster)Holy Wrench (optional) (can be replaced with extra prayer potion)7x Overload (4) (obtained by paying 1.5k NMZ points/dose, can only be used in the minigame)19 Prayer potions (4) What is boosting? Once you get to the NMZ, you'll want to look for melee-only boosters. What are these? They are accounts with only specific quests done that will create a party and invite you to it, enabling only melee bosses, making for easy training. However, most of these accounts will charge between 20-40k per rumble, so be prepared to pay up before you enter. This is a trust trade, and while I've never been scammed, I'm sure there are a few untrustworthy people out there, so if you're worried, look for folks who have a lot of people trading them first. Quests needed for boosting: Boosters tend to have the following quests done, and will require you to complete them as well: - Vampire Slayer - Mountain Daughter - Lost City - Gnome Stronghold - Fight Arena Some may have more done, including the rare account that is designed to boost the Dream Mentor bosses, but these are rare, so just the above quests will be fine. Strategy: Method 1: AFKing For this, all you need to do is drink a dose of overload, turn on protect from melee, use up your special attacks if you brought a spec weapon, and then proceed to come back every 4 minutes or so to top off prayer/re-overload. Very simple stuff. If dharoking, use your rock cake after you overload to drop yourself down to 1HP. Method 2: Not 100% AFKing You'll basically be following the above plan, but with some slight modifications. If you notice yourself gaining HP while dharoking, just rock cake back to your minimum HP. Another thing you will notice are the randomly spawning power-ups, of which there are 4 kinds: zapper, ultimate force, power surge, and recurrent damage. Zapper works as an AoE attack, doing low damage to every NPC in range.Ultimate force will instantly kill every NPC on the field, however no points will be gained.Power surge will instantly replenish your special attack, and continue to replenish it for a short period of time.Recurrent damage will do an extra 75% damage on each hit, but you won't get xp for it. If your goal is solely XP, you will mostly be using power surge, and largely ignoring the other power ups. Power surge is pretty obvious, you'll take out your spec weapon and continually spec until it runs out, leaving you with some great XP gains for a short period. The others, however, don't get you much of an xp boost except in some specific circumstances. When you're fighting, assuming you're using the quests/bosses outlined above, the hardest boss to kill will be the black demon. If you end up with 3 or 4 black demons, you will then want to use the other power ups in an effort to kill them faster and get more vampires/Kendals for better xp. If you want points in addition to XP though, you can use all the power-ups freely, except for ultimate force, which you will only use when there are 3 or 4 live black demons. You're going to end up fighting in this arena for hours with these supplies, but eventually you'll run out of prayer potions, die, and leave with 600k+ points. After that, you just find another booster and repeat. Feel free to spend points on various supplies, as normally you can make back your money spent depending on prices, which I'd suggest checking on Zybez before you buy a lot of one item over another. You can also imbue various items, like DK rings, crystal bow/shields, and the black mask. The minigame is pretty enjoyable, and very, very afk friendly, perfect for working on projects, doing homework, playing GTA:O, whatever. I know this guide isn't the best, but I figured if anyone was wondering about the NMZ, this should help. If you have any questions/comments, post em here and I'll get back to you. 1 R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxingmck Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 How about for maging, because since runes are free. Except its best to mage with 3 others and a booster because then more monsters spawn to be barraged Noobs: We pay we sayJaGeX: How much will you pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 I honestly have no clue how to maximize xp for maging - you only get free runes if you get dagganoth mother/chronozan (sp?) I believe, so normaly boosting accounts won't get you "free" xp. Since there are no boosters with those quests, you'd need to make your own and boost your friends (since obviously you can't boost yourself wink wink) and deal with annoying dagganoth mother/chronozan spawns, which both require normal spellbook. I'm sure there's a relatively good way to do it, but I'm not sure what it is. However, getting a lot of friends and barraging the melee only monsters could be a slightly cheaper alternative to bursting/barraging monkey zombies, since you can spend points on items to make up for ppots. It'd be similar to when people bursted mummies in the CT back in 08. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 So I had an idea in regards to mage boosting - a normal booster account, except with Family Crest also done. Now, get 3 people+booster account in the game, then have the booster leave. Now there's a rune spawn, so everyone can barrage for free, however, you'll have do deal with Chronozan spawns. It won't take any damage, but I don't think it should do any damage to you, and if it did, you could just use blood spells. You would use all the damage powerups to kill multiples of it when there get to be too many. It won't be super fast xp, but it'll be good enough, and probably free, assuming you can make up for prayer potion costs. It's just inconvenient to make a booster account with Family Crest done, and get 3 more people to do it with you. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxingmck Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Runes spawn for free no matter what I thought Noobs: We pay we sayJaGeX: How much will you pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Nope, gotta have a monster that requires magic to defeat it. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerendil Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Try bringing a Gmaul instead of a dds to reaaaaallly use the power surge; it's amazing the boost you have with infinite spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yeah, I tried gmaul and it really is probably the best option. I also learned if you invite the booster, you'll get free runes and the melee-only monsters. I have yet to confirm this for myself, but that's what I heard. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I've heard D2H is good too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 So, I just confirmed inviting the booster will give you runes and keep the melee only monsters... So I got ~60k mage xp/hr, 40k hp xp/hr and 330k NMZ points/hr. So it's a little less than 1/2 the xp/hr of bursting monkey skeletons (I was getting 140k mage xp/hr and ~90k hp xp/hr there). However, it's totally free. Next I'm going to try getting 2 people in there to see if the xp/hr increases at all with more monsters. My monsters for the test were bouncer, khazard warlord, vampire, kendal and tree spirit btw. Also, I'll update the main post soon with the new information I have, and editing some stuff I changed my views on (ie, black demons are actually really good for dharoking, not so much whip/ss/dscim) And in regards to the D2h spec - I think it could be *okay* but you need monsters lined up pretty niceless for you to get the full effect - it's definitely good in some situations, but I think the majority of the time gmaul is gonna be the way to go. EDIT: I tried a duo, and when my partner wasnt afking and helping organize creeps into place, I was getting fairly consistant 85k/hr. When he went afk, it dropped to like 78k xp/hr which is still higher than it was solo. 52k hp xp/hr puts me at around 130k overall xp/hr. Still worse than normal bursting, but again, free. I also got ~450k nmz points/hr duo, but that was partially becuase I was ice barraging and he was ice bursting so I got the majority of the kills. He still ended up with 190k nmz points though, so it seems if we were even stats it'd be around the same amount of nmz points/hr as solo. Also good to know is that in my gear (posted below) I used ~3 doses of ppot per dose of overload, using only melee prayer. My gear for the tests:Farseer helmAhrim TopAhrim SkirtAncient StaffZam BookMage CapeFuryInfinity bootsBarrows GlovesZerker ring (since I don't own a seers and have nothing better to use) And just to tack on for further reference for myself, my friend was in monk robes with 66/67 magic and was getting 65k xp/hr not afk, 48k when afking. and one more thing, never ever ever get a black demon. I think bouncer/vamp/khazard/kendal/tree spirit is the best that you'll commonly find. I did a duo with black demon for probably 20 minutes, and I got 58k mage xp/hr, which is even worse than I got solo. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 How do you get the booster to get you the free runes? And are ALL the runes free? Also: Also, consider not using ice since it makes it easier to arrange monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Basically you need to invite the booster, instead of the normal way where the booster invites you. All runes except soul runes are provided for free, but you can only pick up a certain amount at a time (around 150 ice barrage casts at once). I was considering not ice barraging, but with free runes the best spell you can cast is smoke barrage, wasn't sure how the xp would suffer. That'll be for round 2 of testing. By the way, if anyone wants to try this out with me, feel free to pm S p a ins, I'd be happy to do it. Same goes if anyone needs Sara partners, heh. EDIT: Tested out monk robes+god cloak vs mage cape and ahrims, and I ended up getting 66k xp/hr versus the 60k/hr with ahrims, which I'll attribute to margin of error. But it appears monk robes are fine to train with, I had a +51 mage bonus and hit basically the same. Not sure if replacing other items with prayer items will work too, but I don't have any and don't feel like testing. Also, with that set up I used ~2 1/3 ppots per overload versus 3. And I also tested out smoke barrage solo - I ended up with virtually the same xp/hr (~58k/hr, 300k points an hour, which I attribute to randomness of spawns), so I don't think it honestly matters too much solo. I do think that in duos or trios it could be significant, however. I'll test it next time I duo. And for the last test of the day (finally), doing nothing more than picking up runes and re-potting (ie, as afk as you can get) I got ~48k mage xp/hr and 283k nmz points/hr. Another good thing to note is that things take a very long time to despawn in the NMZ after you drop em. It's not infinite, but it's definitely over 10 minutes. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameJunkie4 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Nice guide, could use some pictures for people who don't know what it is. But also thanks for all the mage testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 Yeah, I'll be updated the main post and *maybe* adding pictures and such too. In the meanwhile, I still need to do a 3 and 4 person test to get an idea about possible xp rates. I tried a 4 man today, but we had black demons so the xp/hr was like 60k, which was pathetic. I also ran into a guy who required the "What Lies Below" quest for King Roald, which gave the line up of King Roald, Bouncer, Tree Spirit, Count Draynor, and Khazard General, which gave me ~70k xp/hr solo non-afk, which is a bit higher than with kendal. I'm curious about if there's another easily accessable 1-space boss monster that a booster could easily unlock for even greater xp. Gonna have to look into it at some point. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I'll participate in mage training w/ ya if ya want sometime. add me: i--am-rak--i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Added ya, I'll pm you if I see you online. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 And so a round of insightful, but disappointing testing ended with a 3 man group. With ice barrage my xp/hr at 84 magic was ~73k, switching to smoke lowered that to 64k. I feel that adding over a duo with non-optimal monsters does more damage then it helps - next test is optimal monsters, but I wouldn't expect that test to happen for a week or so. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 wonder how quickly you could make your own rumble noob for optimal maging... could probably be quite a profitable account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 It's in the works... We'll see how it turns out. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 48-50k mage xp/hr afking with treus darth instead of bouncer, so just a hair above. The real test will be while not-afking it though. Testing that soon. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxingmck Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I think the optimal booster setup was kendal, vampire, king roald, tree gnome general, and another 1x1 monster. also with 4 other magers or even meleers, the xp is much better. Noobs: We pay we sayJaGeX: How much will you pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 So non-afking treus darth account I got like 5k more xp/hr, which is alright. However, it turns out black knight titan is 1x1, so time to make a new account with that set-up, which should probably be incredible xp, probably a solid 10k more/hr. So expect results on that soon-ish. And here's some data from 75 att/str with my prosylete set up with a whip on controlled and gmaul spec wep: 20k xp/hr in the two skills that gmaul wasn't set to, while the attack style gmaul was used for got 31k xp/hr. Should be ~71k xp/hr if only training one attack style. 24k hp xp/hr as well, which isn't too bad. I lasted ~3 hours @ 70 prayer with gmaul, eight 4 dose overloads, and the rest 4 dose ppots. I also tried hosting on a no-demon NMZ account, and I got an average of 200k gp/hr doing that, on a week night during non-peak times. Dunno how it is at peak times, we'll see. Eventually I'll update the main post once I finish all my testing and I'll add a hosting guide as well. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 black knight titan has incredibly high mage def though iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Interesting, I'll do some practice rounds first and see how he reacts to spells. EDIT: Haven't tested black knight titan mage def yet, but I did do another hour of nmz boosting, made 539k profit in a relatively peak hour. I could see it making up to a mil during really amazing times, but I think the average will work out towards 300-400k. Tested the black knight titan mage def on hard mode - nothing crazy, it might be higher than some other monsters, but I still hit probably 4/5 times with my monk robes set up (+45 mage bonus). R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Was that profit through AFK melee? Team barraging? Solo barraging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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