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[Lord Zophar]

Just to give you an idea of how idiotic the current economy is and how easily the super-wealthy manipulate it, just consider last night. Bows were around 250M each (Ascensions). All the super-wealthy decided that their stacks of however many billions that they had weren't enough and that they needed more, so what did they do? They all bought pairs of Ascension bows. Because they anticipated *some* renewed demand (because of Sirenic). Due to their buyout, Ascensions shot up 50-60M for each bow (the bows are 310-320 each now). So they all sold it for 100-120M profit off each bow. For doing what? Absolutely nothing. They made more money from those bows than the people who actually do all the hard work by buying/getting keys and camping Legionaires in order to bring the bows into the game. At least the Camper is actually expending effort and producing a good for the RS community. And he makes less money than a bunch of organized super-wealthy people who make a killing for 5 minutes worth of work. Ridiculous. That's the definition of parasitism. They basically manipulate prices all the time, making things hard to get for normal players (everyone who wanted bows had to pay 100-120M extra). It's essentially holding goods hostage so they can steal money from people who actually produce stuff in RS. That's how it works. So, yes, **** their hoarding and manipulation.

Actually, bows crashed today because presumably all the hoarding piece of **** manipulators dumped them. So, yeah.

 

I paid 265, cant even sell for 250. GF, I'm just gonna hold on to it. No reason to sell it, really, unless the new Barrows bow just blows it away... Which, it might. It would be astronomically retarded for them make the current t90 gear obsolete, but hey, it's Jagex so anything is possible.

 

I've always advocated that anything with a pricetag of over 100m should have a buy limit of 1/24H. Or, at the very least 1/12H.

[Yoko Kurama]

 

Just to give you an idea of how idiotic the current economy is and how easily the super-wealthy manipulate it, just consider last night. Bows were around 250M each (Ascensions). All the super-wealthy decided that their stacks of however many billions that they had weren't enough and that they needed more, so what did they do? They all bought pairs of Ascension bows. Because they anticipated *some* renewed demand (because of Sirenic). Due to their buyout, Ascensions shot up 50-60M for each bow (the bows are 310-320 each now). So they all sold it for 100-120M profit off each bow. For doing what? Absolutely nothing. They made more money from those bows than the people who actually do all the hard work by buying/getting keys and camping Legionaires in order to bring the bows into the game. At least the Camper is actually expending effort and producing a good for the RS community. And he makes less money than a bunch of organized super-wealthy people who make a killing for 5 minutes worth of work. Ridiculous. That's the definition of parasitism. They basically manipulate prices all the time, making things hard to get for normal players (everyone who wanted bows had to pay 100-120M extra). It's essentially holding goods hostage so they can steal money from people who actually produce stuff in RS. That's how it works. So, yes, **** their hoarding and manipulation.

Actually, bows crashed today because presumably all the hoarding piece of **** manipulators dumped them. So, yeah.

 

I paid 265, cant even sell for 250. GF, I'm just gonna hold on to it. No reason to sell it, really, unless the new Barrows bow just blows it away... Which, it might.

 

 

Yes. The next day, once they hoard the stuff and sell it at peak price, it always crashes. Just another cost that they pass onto other people. As for Barrows, it won't be releasing anything that will displace the Ascension Bow, you can be sure of that.

[Alg]

I have no idea what Akrisae does ;..;

Prayer drain. On that note, will this update finally fix Akrisae's Mace? It's had bugged stats since the beta.

[Lord Zophar]

 

 

Just to give you an idea of how idiotic the current economy is and how easily the super-wealthy manipulate it, just consider last night. Bows were around 250M each (Ascensions). All the super-wealthy decided that their stacks of however many billions that they had weren't enough and that they needed more, so what did they do? They all bought pairs of Ascension bows. Because they anticipated *some* renewed demand (because of Sirenic). Due to their buyout, Ascensions shot up 50-60M for each bow (the bows are 310-320 each now). So they all sold it for 100-120M profit off each bow. For doing what? Absolutely nothing. They made more money from those bows than the people who actually do all the hard work by buying/getting keys and camping Legionaires in order to bring the bows into the game. At least the Camper is actually expending effort and producing a good for the RS community. And he makes less money than a bunch of organized super-wealthy people who make a killing for 5 minutes worth of work. Ridiculous. That's the definition of parasitism. They basically manipulate prices all the time, making things hard to get for normal players (everyone who wanted bows had to pay 100-120M extra). It's essentially holding goods hostage so they can steal money from people who actually produce stuff in RS. That's how it works. So, yes, **** their hoarding and manipulation.

Actually, bows crashed today because presumably all the hoarding piece of **** manipulators dumped them. So, yeah.

 

I paid 265, cant even sell for 250. GF, I'm just gonna hold on to it. No reason to sell it, really, unless the new Barrows bow just blows it away... Which, it might.

 

 

Yes. The next day, once they hoard the stuff and sell it at peak price, it always crashes. Just another cost that they pass onto other people. As for Barrows, it won't be releasing anything that will displace the Ascension Bow, you can be sure of that.

 

Yep.

 

Merchants have always been the biggest thing I've hated about RS-- even more than all the sadistic, immature teens who play solely to screw with other people.

 

I mean, I've made about 250m the last three weeks camping Nex for between 3-6 hours a day, with obscene luck involved, and that's a drop in the bucket to what those people can make with zero effort or time investment. It's sickening.

[Sy_Accursed]

 

I actually hope T99 Weaps/arm is obtained akin to PoP =/

 

Agreed.

 

The best equips should ALWAYS be obtained through means other than random boss drops. Otherwise, it's far too easy for the 1% to completely manipulate and control the economy on them. Jagex doesn't understand balance at all, which is why they consistently release bosses with drop rates that are too low for their difficulty/time per kill and GE prices that are FAR too low to use the GE so they remain stagnant and never update.

 

 

1 issue with this ge value being wrong does not make it stagnant.

Jagex specifically made the ge pricing system monitor normal trades as well as ge trades to ensure items do move to their rightful values.

Equally ge value does not in anyway restrict what people can buy or sell for on the ge, people will sometimes put in street value sell and buy offers and they will go through in due course.

 

The only way for ge values to stagnant is if the item value is stable or the item is not traded at all.

[Wkw]

The armor is going to be T90 tank.

"the chance you'll pick up a piece of brand new level 90 armour and shields, available for all classes."

 

Because "armour" doesn't have a plural, it really sounds like this is finally going to be t90 tank

 

And I hope that this can be done by a group of 1-4 and is instanced. Because IF I NEED 8 PEOPLE TO START THIS IT IS BAD CONTENT

[Yoko Kurama]

I think there will be one set of level 90 Melee armour (offensive), and there will be shields for all classes. Kind of weird since they said we would get new shields from PoP -- I guess PoP gets shafted again...

[Yoko Kurama]

 

 

I actually hope T99 Weaps/arm is obtained akin to PoP =/

 

Agreed.

 

The best equips should ALWAYS be obtained through means other than random boss drops. Otherwise, it's far too easy for the 1% to completely manipulate and control the economy on them. Jagex doesn't understand balance at all, which is why they consistently release bosses with drop rates that are too low for their difficulty/time per kill and GE prices that are FAR too low to use the GE so they remain stagnant and never update.

 

 

1 issue with this ge value being wrong does not make it stagnant.

Jagex specifically made the ge pricing system monitor normal trades as well as ge trades to ensure items do move to their rightful values.

Equally ge value does not in anyway restrict what people can buy or sell for on the ge, people will sometimes put in street value sell and buy offers and they will go through in due course.

 

The only way for ge values to stagnant is if the item value is stable or the item is not traded at all.

 

I can name you a hundred items (hyperbole!), which, despite having been here forever and having been traded on the market quite frequently, are nowhere near their real price. It's obvious that the GE mechanic is totally slow and useless. We need manual adjustments for certain items (and Jagex promised us this YEARS ago). It's about damn time they fulfilled that promise. Also the problem with Vorago, as you no doubt know, is that you can't CS it with such a pitiful GE price for the wand of 650M. That's the problem. The GE price system and its utter stagnancy does affect that. 

[Sy_Accursed]

I never said the ge price moved as quickly as it should, nor that some items did not need manual adjustment.

My only point was it is incorrect to say ge prices stagnant as people don't use the ge for items with different street prices, as direct trades are still factored in to making the ge value shift.

[Ambler]

I'm hoping that this update gives a buff to barrows/armour weapons (I hate to say it, but add-on kits?) to buff them to t90 defensive gear and t90 2h weapons. With those sort of stats, set effects would be nice, and we have a nice set of 2h t90 weapons already sorted.

For Ahrim's wand/book and Karil's pistol crossbows, it would be best to nerf them a tiny bit, as to not devalue seismics/ascs, or give seis/asc/drygores a small crit bonus, while giving these nothing), it could be successfully balanced pretty easily.

Of course Dharok's may need nerfing a bit, not sure what it's like currently, and what it would be like if it was t90 instead of t70

[Drazhor]

Can I just say the clown mask is terrifying.

I really hate clowns.

[Den]

Can I just say the clown mask is terrifying.

 

I really hate clowns.

They did a good job making it though.. xD

[baileydafrog]

The armor is going to be T90 tank.

"the chance you'll pick up a piece of brand new level 90 armour and shields, available for all classes."

 

Because "armour" doesn't have a plural, it really sounds like this is finally going to be t90 tank

 

And I hope that this can be done by a group of 1-4 and is instanced. Because IF I NEED 8 PEOPLE TO START THIS IT IS BAD CONTENT

Armour has a plural in the right context, like 7 different armours would be correct, I'd class armour as 1 set max, not multiple as I feel they would use "armours" in this case, though they could be just purposely vague

[Ammako]

heh, I specifically protested gold members for not including the bloodpouncer, and now, several months after i decided not to get it, they finally relent

 

it's a good gesture but way too late to get more people to buy in

 

could you imagine how much more they would have gotten? it would have been like a season pass. "pay now and get all of the promotional items for this year!" people would be lining up in droves

Hold on.

 

Person 1 bought Gold membership. Person 2 didn't buy Gold membership because it wouldn't unlock every promotional item for the year.

Then Jagex later makes every promotional item for the year (and some more) instantly available to every Gold premium member.

 

Person 2 realizes that Person 1 ended up getting every promotional item for the year because of their Gold membership.

 

Then when they make more Premium membership packages for next year, Person 1 buys it again, but this time, Person 2 does too, who probably wouldn't have bought it otherwise.

 

 

Of course, not all of those who didn't buy Premium membership will suddenly start buying the packages for next year (or they might just not have more Premium membership packages), but it'll probably be a nice chunk of them.

[Drazhor]

"Hello there children, I would like to play a game with you. It's called 'Pin the knife in your throat'."

[Alg]

"Hello there children, I would like to play a game with you. It's called 'Pin the knife in your throat'."

NOPE. Nopenopenopenopenope. And did I mention the nope? Oh good, it's not on the page anymore.

[Drazhor]

"Don't be afraid. I just want to be your friend. All I want to do is feast upon your entrails."

[Ambler]

Can I report that post for the image scaring the [Harpy] out of me?

;_;

[Alg]

Can I report that post for the image scaring the [Harpy] out of me?

;_;

This. Holy [bleep] that's scary, and I'm not even afraid of clowns.

[strilmus]

I get the impression that it's here to apologize for how badly the scarecrow mask was designed

 

and then tearing your intestines out

 

 

 

heh, I specifically protested gold members for not including the bloodpouncer, and now, several months after i decided not to get it, they finally relent
 
it's a good gesture but way too late to get more people to buy in
 
could you imagine how much more they would have gotten? it would have been like a season pass. "pay now and get all of the promotional items for this year!" people would be lining up in droves

Hold on.

Person 1 bought Gold membership. Person 2 didn't buy Gold membership because it wouldn't unlock every promotional item for the year.
Then Jagex later makes every promotional item for the year (and some more) instantly available to every Gold premium member.

Person 2 realizes that Person 1 ended up getting every promotional item for the year because of their Gold membership.

Then when they make more Premium membership packages for next year, Person 1 buys it again, but this time, Person 2 does too, who probably wouldn't have bought it otherwise.


Of course, not all of those who didn't buy Premium membership will suddenly start buying the packages for next year (or they might just not have more Premium membership packages), but it'll probably be a nice chunk of them.

 

 

would have been more effective if they STARTED with this

 

theoretically, there isn't even that much overlap for the market, it would have been easy to do and they'd be raking in the dough

 

(i'm sour grapes enough to not get it if it comes around again since i already missed out on most of the interesting stuff)

[Drazhor]

Note the eye effect isn't one of them loyalty gazes; it's actually on the mask.

I love this mask.

[Lord Zophar]

"Don't be afraid. I just want to be your friend. All I want to do is feast upon your entrails."

 

Wat.

[Sy_Accursed]

I get the impression that it's here to apologize for how badly the scarecrow mask was designed

 

and then tearing your intestines out

 

 

 

heh, I specifically protested gold members for not including the bloodpouncer, and now, several months after i decided not to get it, they finally relent

 

it's a good gesture but way too late to get more people to buy in

 

could you imagine how much more they would have gotten? it would have been like a season pass. "pay now and get all of the promotional items for this year!" people would be lining up in droves

Hold on.

 

Person 1 bought Gold membership. Person 2 didn't buy Gold membership because it wouldn't unlock every promotional item for the year.

Then Jagex later makes every promotional item for the year (and some more) instantly available to every Gold premium member.

 

Person 2 realizes that Person 1 ended up getting every promotional item for the year because of their Gold membership.

 

Then when they make more Premium membership packages for next year, Person 1 buys it again, but this time, Person 2 does too, who probably wouldn't have bought it otherwise.

 

 

Of course, not all of those who didn't buy Premium membership will suddenly start buying the packages for next year (or they might just not have more Premium membership packages), but it'll probably be a nice chunk of them.

 

 

would have been more effective if they STARTED with this

 

theoretically, there isn't even that much overlap for the market, it would have been easy to do and they'd be raking in the dough

 

(i'm sour grapes enough to not get it if it comes around again since i already missed out on most of the interesting stuff)

 

I don't see why people got all panty twisted about it anyway.

 

Gold membership gave out the past year of membership items when you bought it. Bloodpouncer came out after the package so was not included.

The logical assumption was at worst next years gold package would include it, at best Jagex would give it out at some point in the interim.

[Ammako]

Precisely why I didn't care that they weren't included. They had specifically said that it would unlock every past promotional item, not sure why people condemned them for not including the future ones.

 

That they went and added this year's promo items to every gold member's account is just a bonus.I had debated between getting the Bloodpouncer and the Aurora armour on my noob acc or on my main and decided to unlock them on my noob; now I have them on both.

[Lord Zophar]

How do you get the Gold Membership?