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So I recently watched a video about depression and I've been thinking about it a lot recently, and I've come to the conclusion most people are lying to themselves about what makes them happy. It seems to me that everyone keeps getting told that drinking and going to clubs is so cool and the best way to enjoy your youth, but when I go it just seems so tragic to me. Most of the people don't seem happy, they just look sad, like they're lying to themselves. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure some people really do enjoy going to clubs but for most people I honestly can't believe that they enjoy doing it.

 

All going to clubs is, is:

>You're drunk social interaction means less

>You're not going to meet new worthwhile people

>Costs you money

>Feel like ass the next day

 

Seriously, I go to town and I feel like everyone's just there to validate themselves. People I wouldn't normally talk to act like they're my friends when they see me in town so they can seem cool or whatever in front of whoever they're with and the conversation is just tragic.

 

"Oh hey man it's been so long!!!"

"What do you study brah!?!?"

"Oh man that's so cool!!!!" 

 

The conversation doesn't go much past that, and it just means so little. 

 

And meeting a good girl at a club? It's like shaking the [bleep] tree and expecting an angel to fall out. What good, relationship worthy girl goes home with a stranger they've never met before? Even if they don't smash first date.

 

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Seems like some very weird conclusions there. For one yes people you may not normal talk to might strike up conversation with you when drinking, but that's nothing to do with being 'sad' or trying to seem 'cool' its to do with drinking being a social lubricant. It lowers you inhibitions and makes you more open and talkative (usually anyway) so you see someone you recognise and you engage them, whether it's your best mate or someone you barely speak to doesn't matter its the same.

 

Most people who go clubbing go to have a good times with their friends and let their hair down, maybe hookup with someone, not to form meaningful friendships and relationships that will last forever more. It's just about forgetting stresses and worries for a few hours whilst going a bit wild fuelled by the social lubrication of drink and the music.

 

If it's not for you so be it, but don't try and paint everyone who enjoys it with some depressive brush just because it does nothing for you.

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Don't like it? Don't go to a club, simple as that.

When me and my friends first started drinking legally, we'd end up in a club near enough every time we went out. I enjoyed it back then. Now, several years down the line, I'm lucky if I end up in a club 5 times in a year. Our perspective changed, I'd now rather sit in a pub and have a blether with some mates but 5 years ago, nah [bleep] that, lets go to a nightclub.

Different strokes for different folks, is all.

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I agree with some of what you're saying but can't say I care for the generalizations. Seems to me most people at clubs are not my type, regardless of their gender.

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I'd go with a different generalization, that is, in every activity there are people who pretend to enjoy it. Probably more so the more an activity/thing is supposed to be fun/good, because it'd be weird to say you don't enjoy something considered universally good (e.g. pay rises, higher internet speed, warm apple cake with ice cream and caramel sauce) and people generally avoid being weird (in this case, socially unaccepted = weird). That said, is getting drunk ever considered fun or good? I'm pretty sure there is social pressure to drink alcohol, but that may not derive from alcohol's 'goodness'. Ah well, the endless curiosities of social behaviour :D.

 

(also I vote clubs are too loud and too full with drunk people - try making a poll comparing 'going to clubs' and 'liking various aspects of clubs')

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Yes, most people have the wrong ideas about what makes them happy but that's a huge topic for another discussion.

 

Regarding drinking/clubbing and happiness, that's probably one of my favorite activities to do with friends. Some of my fondest memories are from experiences shared w/ friends after an adventurous night out drinking. I remember back when fitness was my #1 priority and goal, there came a point where I wasn't going out and drinking with my friends because of the negative impact it would have on my fitness gains. But I realized that I was happier overall if I dedicated time to go out with friends and sacrifice a bit of my health, while still achieving my fitness goals, albeit at a bit slower pace.

 

If you're going out and getting [bleep]ed up and not having fun when you do it, then yes, you're being an idiot. But if you're having the time of your life every time you go out, then by all means, keep enjoying it (in moderation hopefully). :D

 

Also, as a super-introverted person who would spend damn-near all of his time in solitude if possible, going out and drinking is basically my way of keeping my social habits in check.

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Seems like some very weird conclusions there. For one yes people you may not normal talk to might strike up conversation with you when drinking, but that's nothing to do with being 'sad' or trying to seem 'cool' its to do with drinking being a social lubricant. It lowers you inhibitions and makes you more open and talkative (usually anyway) so you see someone you recognise and you engage them, whether it's your best mate or someone you barely speak to doesn't matter its the same.

 

Most people who go clubbing go to have a good times with their friends and let their hair down, maybe hookup with someone, not to form meaningful friendships and relationships that will last forever more. It's just about forgetting stresses and worries for a few hours whilst going a bit wild fuelled by the social lubrication of drink and the music.

 

If it's not for you so be it, but don't try and paint everyone who enjoys it with some depressive brush just because it does nothing for you.

Like I said, I'm sure a lot of people genuinely do enjoy it, but doesn't it seem sad that you need to drink to talk to people? Doesn't it seem sad that you need something to relax? Why can't you do this when you're sober? Needing a drug to talk to people and relax sounds awful upsetting to me. And wouldn't hooking up with someone you know and actually like be better than just some random, probably less than reputable, person?

 

 

I'd go with a different generalization, that is, in every activity there are people who pretend to enjoy it. Probably more so the more an activity/thing is supposed to be fun/good, because it'd be weird to say you don't enjoy something considered universally good (e.g. pay rises, higher internet speed, warm apple cake with ice cream and caramel sauce) and people generally avoid being weird (in this case, socially unaccepted = weird). That said, is getting drunk ever considered fun or good? I'm pretty sure there is social pressure to drink alcohol, but that may not derive from alcohol's 'goodness'. Ah well, the endless curiosities of social behaviour :D.

 

(also I vote clubs are too loud and too full with drunk people - try making a poll comparing 'going to clubs' and 'liking various aspects of clubs')

 

Well said, I feel like where I'm from especially, there's so much pressure to drink. I think I'd really struggle to find many people who think drinking's lame here. And I feel most people drink because of the social pressure than because they actually enjoy it. Even people who've embarrassed themselves terribly and had their eyebrows shaved when they were sleeping or w/e drink every weekend. And maybe I worded this poorly, but here no one goes to clubs sober. I must be one of the very few people to actually have done it my friend group.

 

Yes, most people have the wrong ideas about what makes them happy but that's a huge topic for another discussion.

 

Regarding drinking/clubbing and happiness, that's probably one of my favorite activities to do with friends. Some of my fondest memories are from experiences shared w/ friends after an adventurous night out drinking. I remember back when fitness was my #1 priority and goal, there came a point where I wasn't going out and drinking with my friends because of the negative impact it would have on my fitness gains. But I realized that I was happier overall if I dedicated time to go out with friends and sacrifice a bit of my health, while still achieving my fitness goals, albeit at a bit slower pace.

 

If you're going out and getting [bleep]ed up and not having fun when you do it, then yes, you're being an idiot. But if you're having the time of your life every time you go out, then by all means, keep enjoying it (in moderation hopefully). :D

 

Also, as a super-introverted person who would spend damn-near all of his time in solitude if possible, going out and drinking is basically my way of keeping my social habits in check.

If you don't mind, could you run me through what you'd do in a really fun night? I consider myself pretty introverted compared to my friends, and it seems like my friends who enjoy clubs the most are the most "alpha". The ones who lift the most and the ones who can command the most presence. I almost feel like a lot of people are "fighting" over having the most presence at clubs too. But maybe that's just me looking at it the wrong way. (And I don't just dislike clubs because I don't have presence, I am 6ft 1 and reasonably good looking)

 

I'd love to get into the discussion about what people think makes them happy, sounds fascinating to me. 

Oh and would those fitness goals be gym related? If so what're your stats? Lol. 

 

If people don't mind, using Quyneax's suggestion, if they like going to clubs could they post why? What aspect do you enjoy? Meeting new people? Or just having a rave?

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 Some of my fondest memories are from experiences shared w/ women after an adventurous night out drinking. 

 

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I only started going out drinking this year after my breakup with my ex boyfriend. For someone with depression and social anxiety, it was a huge step, but the people and friends I've met from it have made it all worth it. Although I still have issues I'm going through and trying to get over, going out and just relaxing with said friends help.

 

Also it all depends on the atmosphere of which club you go to. I go to gay clubs mostly and it's usually very chilled and relaxed. If I went to somewhere that's just loud, obnoxious and filled with drunken morons:

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 Some of my fondest memories are from experiences shared w/ women after an adventurous night out drinking. 

 

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I only started going out drinking this year after my breakup with my ex boyfriend. For someone with depression and social anxiety, it was a huge step, but the people and friends I've met from it have made it all worth it. Although I still have issues I'm going through and trying to get over, going out and just relaxing with said friends help.

 

Also it all depends on the atmosphere of which club you go to. I go to gay clubs mostly and it's usually very chilled and relaxed. If I went to somewhere that's just loud, obnoxious and filled with drunken morons:

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Hmm, maybe clubs are different where you're from. As far as I'm aware, here all you do is dance at a club. Not a lot of quiet conversation or anything like that. And I really feel that going to clubs to meet people is a fairly terrible idea. Only girls I've ever gotten with at clubs have been far from relationship material and I am sure there are far, far better ways of meeting people. I don't get the whole polygamy thing either.

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I get the video about depression. At the risk of turning this into a more philosophical / sociological debate, I agree that the biomedical model of care doesn't sufficiently account for health issues such as mental health problems. It's impossible to treat someone for depression and only see that patient as a condition or as a set of archetypal symptoms resulting from a chemical imbalance of neurotransmitters in the brain. There are so many psychological and sociological factors which act as a trigger, or possibly exacerbate, the depression / anxiety. So I get that theory, I honestly do.

 

Additionally, I also get the connection between depression and alcoholism. Although, we're not talking about addictive problems here; we're talking about people simply getting a bit too drunk at a club (binge drinking), which is not the same as alcoholism.

 

Would you mind running me through the connection between depression, and your negative views of clubs and club-goers? I'm not judging your argument yet, I just really want to understand it first. I'm just having a little trouble understanding the link between watching a video about depression, and not liking clubs.

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I get the video about depression. At the risk of turning this into a more philosophical / sociological debate, I agree that the biomedical model of care doesn't sufficiently account for health issues such as mental health problems. It's impossible to treat someone for depression and only see that patient as a condition or as a set of archetypal symptoms resulting from a chemical imbalance of neurotransmitters in the brain. There are so many psychological and sociological factors which act as a trigger, or possibly exacerbate, the depression / anxiety. So I get that theory, I honestly do.

 

Additionally, I also get the connection between depression and alcoholism. Although, we're not talking about addictive problems here; we're talking about people simply getting a bit too drunk at a club (binge drinking), which is not the same as alcoholism.

 

Would you mind running me through the connection between depression, and your negative views of clubs and club-goers? I'm not judging your argument yet, I just really want to understand it first. I'm just having a little trouble understanding the link between watching a video about depression, and not liking clubs.

I would love for the discussion to deviate, it all seems interesting to me so by all means if you have a tangent, go on it.

 

The video is where the idea comes from, if you look at the entire thing he says somewhere that he used to work as a bouncer or a doorman for ~10 years and how he noticed everyone in town just looked sad to him. He also says that while everyone thinks drugs are so cool, he sees it as a weakness. You need something to relax? That's pathetic. Reliance on anything is just a weakness to you. And after I heard him say this, it just clicked to me.

I was pretty popular in high school and I've been to a lot of parties, but I never really had that much fun, don't get me wrong, it's been pretty good, but some of the funnest times for me have been when I've just been relaxing and playing cards or talking about whatever with people. And as soon as everyone starts drinking the conversation deteriorates and the games end. And everyone acts like drinking and going to clubs is so much better than everything else and I just don't feel it and I refuse to believe I'm the only one.

 

The video also mentions repression of emotion as a cause for depression and I agree a lot with this too. I have friends whose new years resolutions were to act happier and stuff like that, and everyone else would agree and say something like "we're privileged youth, we have no right to be upset" and I feel so many people are just blatantly lying to themselves about their own happiness and what makes them happy. And I think one of the biggest lies, and surely one of the most common ones is how much people enjoy partying/clubbing. I feel most people just say they do because it's such a "cool" thing to do. And I really, really, don't think most people enjoy it as much as they say.

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I think theres people who just socialise easier in a club and then theres people that just go clubs because its glamorised and cool. These are the people who are like "going to get of my head baht" But if you're someone like me if I am in a club I don't drink until I am a mess. I just talk and drink casually. I treat it socially rather than trying to act like a badass. It fully depends on the persons motives.

 

Most people I would agree are like OP is saying, because people these days in uni are fitted with the idea of you're young, get off your [bleep]. And naturaly people want to fit in. But if you're a logical thinker or don't really care for fitting in. You're more likely just to take it easy and enjoy the exprience rather than forcing it.

 

Its like university, its glamorised to be a big piss up these days. When 20-30 years ago, its where people just went if they wanted a degree in a dedicated field. And even in university you have people like "I want to be a doctor" and they are dedicated to that, may have the odd drink as a release of stress. But they are not there for the glamorised reasons.

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The video is where the idea comes from, if you look at the entire thing he says somewhere that he used to work as a bouncer or a doorman for ~10 years and how he noticed everyone in town just looked sad to him. He also says that while everyone thinks drugs are so cool, he sees it as a weakness. You need something to relax? That's pathetic. Reliance on anything is just a weakness to you. And after I heard him say this, it just clicked to me.

Not all people take drugs to relax necessarily. My housemate, for example, takes MD before going to all-night raves for exactly the opposite effect. I wouldn't have suggested that she's "reliant" on it either, baring in mind she only goes to these events twice a year; you have to be very careful about establishing a distinction between addictive drug use and recreational drug use.

 

Feeding the body drugs like a machine in order to get you through the day... I think we can all agree that's "weak". Feeding the body drugs very occasionally for the experience of pushing the body beyond normal limits, is that really weak? Perhaps stupid from a physiological point of view, perhaps flawed from a psychological point of view, but is it fair to label people as "weak" for wanting to experience something?

 

I'm not so sure it is. 

I was pretty popular in high school and I've been to a lot of parties, but I never really had that much fun, don't get me wrong, it's been pretty good, but some of the funnest times for me have been when I've just been relaxing and playing cards or talking about whatever with people. And as soon as everyone starts drinking the conversation deteriorates and the games end. And everyone acts like drinking and going to clubs is so much better than everything else and I just don't feel it and I refuse to believe I'm the only one.

You're not the only one. I'm 23 years old, I've been drinking around others for the best part of a decade now. I think by my age, alcohol has lost some of its reputation and you start to realise that, actually, all of those nights out have been fun for reasons other than excessive alcohol usage. Binge-drinking becomes the means to an end (having fun with others) rather than the end itself. I'd rather stay on the dancefloor and burn off some energy these days, than run off to the bar the moment my glass is empty.

 

When I was 18, however, and also when I moved into university halls last year (where I was surrounded by 18-year old school-leavers), the attitude was very much the other way around. I went to flat parties where people were literally just drinking because the psychedelic dub-step music was too ridiculously loud to even hear the person next to you. They were some of the most boring experiences.

 

So age, and attitudes and expections towards alcohol consumption definitely make a difference. If you're in that 18-24 age group, have patience... people will grow up eventually. 

The video also mentions repression of emotion as a cause for depression and I agree a lot with this too. I have friends whose new years resolutions were to act happier and stuff like that, and everyone else would agree and say something like "we're privileged youth, we have no right to be upset" and I feel so many people are just blatantly lying to themselves about their own happiness and what makes them happy. And I think one of the biggest lies, and surely one of the most common ones is how much people enjoy partying/clubbing. I feel most people just say they do because it's such a "cool" thing to do. And I really, really, don't think most people enjoy it as much as they say.

We're going into Freudian psychology here... not really a fan of it. However, your friends failed their resolutions because "being happy" isn't an achievable goal. Instead, they should have identified something which makes them happier, and set a goal to do more of it, or achieve something through it. Something specific, something measurable within a defined time frame. 

Most people I would agree are like OP is saying, because people these days in uni are fitted with the idea of you're young, get off your [bleep]. And naturaly people want to fit in. But if you're a logical thinker or don't really care for fitting in. You're more likely just to take it easy and enjoy the exprience rather than forcing it.

Peer pressure plays a huge part, yes. I've spoken to some people who were teetotalers, and Freshers Week for them was fairly difficult in terms of fitting in. "We're having a party tonight, is your house coming out?" is pretty much the default question after meeting someone new at university.

 

Its like university, its glamorised to be a big piss up these days. When 20-30 years ago, its where people just went if they wanted a degree in a dedicated field. And even in university you have people like "I want to be a doctor" and they are dedicated to that, may have the odd drink as a release of stress. But they are not there for the glamorised reasons

Students have been having piss ups for decades and decades. I was born in 1990 when both of my parents were at university. They were having piss ups even back then.

 

Frankly, you have people who drink and actually give a toss about their studies as well; and then those who just expect a year-long party. And I say year-long, because most in that latter group won't see second year. They'll fail long before then.

 

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I get what you are trying to say, but I have to disagree that everything and everyone is sad there.

Now I am not much of a club person, only been to a club a few times in my life for I am a rather quieter bar-type fellow but the times I have been at a club they were cool. Company is the key and you can see some people who are just what have been described here but I personally know people who like clubs because there people can dance. And some seriously like dancing that much. Hooking up or anything is not the reason for them.

 

And about drinking, as was said, alcohol is a social lubricant.

I am unable to flirt or even speak with pretty girls when I am sober. I am too quiet and restrained to have fun.

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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.

Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.

Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

Randox pretty much stays rational.

Etc, etc

 

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The video is where the idea comes from, if you look at the entire thing he says somewhere that he used to work as a bouncer or a doorman for ~10 years and how he noticed everyone in town just looked sad to him. He also says that while everyone thinks drugs are so cool, he sees it as a weakness. You need something to relax? That's pathetic. Reliance on anything is just a weakness to you. And after I heard him say this, it just clicked to me.

Not all people take drugs to relax necessarily. My housemate, for example, takes MD before going to all-night raves for exactly the opposite effect. I wouldn't have suggested that she's "reliant" on it either, baring in mind she only goes to these events twice a year; you have to be very careful about establishing a distinction between addictive drug use and recreational drug use.

 

Feeding the body drugs like a machine in order to get you through the day... I think we can all agree that's "weak". Feeding the body drugs very occasionally for the experience of pushing the body beyond normal limits, is that really weak? Perhaps stupid from a physiological point of view, perhaps flawed from a psychological point of view, but is it fair to label people as "weak" for wanting to experience something?

 

I'm not so sure it is. 

Yeah I agree that taking something once, for curiosity, isn't really weak. But even if you're not addicted to it, using it often means it has a use for you or you need it for something. And that's a weakness. It doesn't have to be a crippling addiction, just something you need for something. And I don't think these drugs help push your body past its normal limit, I think it just helps you lose part of yourself, so you can rave harder/care less, which is something you can do without taking a drug.

 

Happiness is unachievable? Do you mind explaining? Sorry not new to this new quote system, lol. 

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I get what you are trying to say, but I have to disagree that everything and everyone is sad there.

Now I am not much of a club person, only been to a club a few times in my life for I am a rather quieter bar-type fellow but the times I have been at a club they were cool. Company is the key and you can see some people who are just what have been described here but I personally know people who like clubs because there people can dance. And some seriously like dancing that much. Hooking up or anything is not the reason for them.

 

And about drinking, as was said, alcohol is a social lubricant.

I am unable to flirt or even speak with pretty girls when I am sober. I am too quiet and restrained to have fun.

I used to be really similar, I couldn't really speak to girls or anything when I was younger unless I was drunk. My advice, don't drink. Relying on alcohol for something so basic is a crippling weakness.  And I don't think alcohol is a viable answer. Even if you do manage to sleep with a girl, what would you do after? You can't always be drunk around her and sleeping with her once doesn't solve the problem.

This is a prime example why drinking is a weakness. You're relying on it for one of the simplest things in life. 

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Okay, I should have explained that I can't speak to a stranger without a drink. If I already knew the girl I can speak to her alright.

But I am weak and I have never even slept with a girl, so I can't really even answer that.

 

Drinking is a weakness, but it makes me happy because then I can be me. I dare to say what I feel or think. And even then not to a girl.

 

So I will drink if I want to. Not everyone was born to be confident.

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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.

Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.

Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

Randox pretty much stays rational.

Etc, etc

 

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Why do you perceive virginity to be a weakness? That's just... silly. Other people aren't "better" or more confident than you because they managed to get a girl into bed with them.

 

From what you've said on previous threads, you're clearly quite popular with girls. I really, really wish you'd accept that you clearly have attractive qualities, and none of them are enhanced necessarily by alcohol.

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Why do you perceive virginity to be a weakness? That's just... silly. Other people aren't "better" or more confident than you because they managed to get a girl into bed with them.

 

From what you've said on previous threads, you're clearly quite popular with girls. I really, really wish you'd accept that you clearly have attractive qualities, and none of them are enhanced necessarily by alcohol.

The key to going balls deep is confidence to even go that area. It doesn't make you more of a man. So I agree virginity doesn't make you better or worse than others. I think his main problem is that hes just not properly clicked with another girl. Sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't.

 

And if you're worrying about not being "experienced enough" just be dedicated to being a good lover.

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Wha....They still have clubs? We called them nightclubs then, where you danced, boozed and in some cases tried to get lucky.  Same thing going on these days?

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Okay, I should have explained that I can't speak to a stranger without a drink. If I already knew the girl I can speak to her alright.

But I am weak and I have never even slept with a girl, so I can't really even answer that.

 

Drinking is a weakness, but it makes me happy because then I can be me. I dare to say what I feel or think. And even then not to a girl.

 

So I will drink if I want to. Not everyone was born to be confident.

I disagree with this so strongly, if you need a drink to be "you" I really think you should change something. Almost by definition being drunk doesn't make you, you. I know when I drink I become more introverted and by the time I'm more confident I'm usually a complete idiot. And I think everyone was born to be confident, you may just need a little help/time. Not saying you should never drink, but I think it means there are probably something else here. 

 

People blow up the value of virginity a lot too, I think it's another one of the things people are lying to themselves about.

 

Wha....They still have clubs? We called them nightclubs then, where you danced, boozed and in some cases tried to get lucky.  Same thing going on these days?

Yeah nightclubs = clubs in this case

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I know I am one [bleep]ing mess. But I am way too restrained to even talk about emotions when sober. Only place where I can let my emotions loose is this board. Not a single person who I know in real life knows even half of what I have written here on this board in different topics. This place is the only place where I dare to say anything about me.

Except when I am drunk. Then I have spoken a few words about my thoughts and feelings about everything to my best friend and flatmate. And I have known him for 13 years. And even he doesn't know half of what I have written on these forums. He doesn't know that I had times when I seriously wanted to just kill myself.

 

But alcohol does give me confidence. It enables me to speak with people, for chrissakes. It enables my mind to roll free and do things that I wouldn't do otherwise. Like dance. Or talk with a girl.

 

Fun fact: I have never ever approached a hot stranger girl.

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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.

Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.

Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

Randox pretty much stays rational.

Etc, etc

 

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Yes, most people have the wrong ideas about what makes them happy but that's a huge topic for another discussion.

 

Regarding drinking/clubbing and happiness, that's probably one of my favorite activities to do with friends. Some of my fondest memories are from experiences shared w/ friends after an adventurous night out drinking. I remember back when fitness was my #1 priority and goal, there came a point where I wasn't going out and drinking with my friends because of the negative impact it would have on my fitness gains. But I realized that I was happier overall if I dedicated time to go out with friends and sacrifice a bit of my health, while still achieving my fitness goals, albeit at a bit slower pace.

 

If you're going out and getting [bleep]ed up and not having fun when you do it, then yes, you're being an idiot. But if you're having the time of your life every time you go out, then by all means, keep enjoying it (in moderation hopefully). :D

 

Also, as a super-introverted person who would spend damn-near all of his time in solitude if possible, going out and drinking is basically my way of keeping my social habits in check.

If you don't mind, could you run me through what you'd do in a really fun night? I consider myself pretty introverted compared to my friends, and it seems like my friends who enjoy clubs the most are the most "alpha". The ones who lift the most and the ones who can command the most presence. I almost feel like a lot of people are "fighting" over having the most presence at clubs too. But maybe that's just me looking at it the wrong way. (And I don't just dislike clubs because I don't have presence, I am 6ft 1 and reasonably good looking)

 

I'd love to get into the discussion about what people think makes them happy, sounds fascinating to me. 

Oh and would those fitness goals be gym related? If so what're your stats? Lol. 

 

If people don't mind, using Quyneax's suggestion, if they like going to clubs could they post why? What aspect do you enjoy? Meeting new people? Or just having a rave?

 

 

Well when I go drinking with friends, I have the most fun at house parties because people are generally friendlier and more open to meeting new people. But when house parties aren't an option, there was a bar we'd always go to which was kind of a house-like bar with several different patios, rooms, floors, etc. Since my wingman and I are introverted nerds at heart, we'd basically get hammered and then go "raid" the "dungeon" (bar). We'd meet the most people just waiting in line to go to new rooms and stuff since that right there is something that everybody has in common.

 

We never really danced or raved or anything. It was mostly just getting really drunk and trying to troll people and then becoming friends with the people who had good senses of humor and then getting them to join us for the rest of the night.

 

Check my blog for my thoughts on what people think make them happy and how that usually works out for them: http://happysaint.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/red-pill-important-questions-to-ask-yourself/

 

Yeah my fitness goals were gym-related. My goal in college was to bench press double my bodyweight. The most I benched was 200 lbs whilst weighing 125 lbs. Close, but no cigar. :P

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What Muggy just described is how 90% of my nights out go.

Just that we usually go with a bit larger crew.

 

And clubs can take the same position, only instead of waiting in line you get to know people by dancing. Or well, lines aswell.

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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.

Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.

Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

Randox pretty much stays rational.

Etc, etc

 

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