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Neither of those address my point from two pages ago. I'll post it here again.

 

If you allow Runes and Dusty to be in the top 10 for time to 200m all because using runners is "macro-efficient," then you shouldn't use CML's EHP rates as a basis for your top 10. Based on your logic, the assumed rate for RC should be 45-50k/hr, which would knock Runes, Dusty, and even myself way out of contention for top 10

 

I have adressed that point earlier trance, and in short: because less than 1% of the HLC does lavas/using runners I think it's best to base the EHP on double nats and just accept that EHP is not perfect, but if more than 25% of the HLC starts using lavas/runners  I think the EHP should change. 

 

Now instead of repeating yourself can't you tell me what you think the EHP guidelines should be?


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Neither of those address my point from two pages ago. I'll post it here again.

 

If you allow Runes and Dusty to be in the top 10 for time to 200m all because using runners is "macro-efficient," then you shouldn't use CML's EHP rates as a basis for your top 10. Based on your logic, the assumed rate for RC should be 45-50k/hr, which would knock Runes, Dusty, and even myself way out of contention for top 10

 

I have adressed that point earlier trance, and in short: because less than 1% of the HLC does lavas/using runners I think it's best to base the EHP on double nats and just accept that EHP is not perfect, but if more than 25% of the HLC starts using lavas/runners  I think the EHP should change. 

 

Now instead of repeating yourself can't you tell me what you think the EHP guidelines should be?

 

The EHP for RC should be 45k since Runes and Dusty are in your top 10. That has been my point for a while now. You should remove me to be honest.

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Neither of those address my point from two pages ago. I'll post it here again.

 

If you allow Runes and Dusty to be in the top 10 for time to 200m all because using runners is "macro-efficient," then you shouldn't use CML's EHP rates as a basis for your top 10. Based on your logic, the assumed rate for RC should be 45-50k/hr, which would knock Runes, Dusty, and even myself way out of contention for top 10

 

I have adressed that point earlier trance, and in short: because less than 1% of the HLC does lavas/using runners I think it's best to base the EHP on double nats and just accept that EHP is not perfect, but if more than 25% of the HLC starts using lavas/runners  I think the EHP should change. 

 

Now instead of repeating yourself can't you tell me what you think the EHP guidelines should be?

 

The EHP for RC should be 45k since Runes and Dusty are in your top 10. That has been my point for a while now. You should remove me to be honest.

 

So do you want the EHP rate to be change to 45k? or do you want a separate calculator that calcs the time to 200m all skills which uses 45k/h for Runecrafting?


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That actually gives me an idea. We could use rates here that differ from the ones that CML uses. 

CML's rates are reasonably efficient, but I think we can use rates that are efficient pure and simple in this place.

This is what I suggested two pages back and re-posted on this page. I may be repeating myself but only because I feel my point is being missed.

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Here's an idea:

 

If you personally do not think those 2 should be included in the top 15, skip over their names and treat it as a top 13.

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The reason they're even that high in the first place is because Foot is giving priority consideration to those who choose not to use runners. By all rights, he could simply just put RC at 75k Xp/hr or whatever and let people use solely alts for making money. It's already a courtesy keeping it as low as it is.


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we should just convert ehp and measure everything in # of agility laps

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How come you guys are doing top 15 instead of, say, top 20? Is it just to keep things competitive and interesting or are there only like 15 people that are actually serious candidates for 200m all?

 

I'm having a hard time following this discussion since I am not among the elite :P

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Would it be possible for foot to change individuals rc rates, or does his formulas work across the board for all accounts?  Like, can he go in there and change only Runes and Dusty's RC rate to 80k/hr?

 

I agree their EHP's are inflated, but I think it would be better to correct their rates instead of just toss them off the board.

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That would be the best solution. It would, however, stir up some controversy for obvious reasons. Generally speaking, games use the same rules/measurement methods for every player to determine competition value, but I see no harm in it in this case. It's a pretty unique situation and there are good arguments to back it up.

I think it works across the board, so even if the general consensus is to specifically increase their rc xp rate, it still wouldn't be put in action.

 

But, as Trance and I suggested, it doesn't have to be officially changed. We can modify it ourselves in this thread.

 

Or, Sten (NoToAfkPray) could simply skip them in the next top lists. It boggles my mind he still wants to keep them there. If their xp rates would be changed (which they should), they wouldn't come close to the top 15 anyway.

 

N01perfect does solo abyss btw. People in the HLC see him as the 'true' rank 1.

I hope he does lavas to get perm 1.

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hey guys new to thread! Loved following it for many months! Anyways I noticed hey jase has been gaining less xp this week is he busy or taking a slower pace!? I belivev lynx broke his will maybe lol.

 

 

And gz viore on 1b exp

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Paperbag is also close to all 200ms on eoc wonder if he will compete on osrs, he said he would play, but idk if he will compete. Should be interesting....

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There seem to be many ideas on how we can improve the top 15 with using different rates. And the only thing I know for sure is that I'm not going to make those calculations. So I am going to continue basing the Top 15 updates on EHP as long as it is the best system we have. 

 

@ muggiwhplar 

 

 

No particular reason, except that A13d always used to do 15 updates back in the day.

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Solo running rc was never efficient. If their complaint is about runners then its just plain wrong

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Solo running rc was never efficient. If their complaint is about runners then its just plain wrong

I wouldn't go as far to say it is plain wrong. After all you have make like 11B+ extra from some other kind of source. But now as we have Bonds, alts and the GE is of course not impossible.


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Solo running rc was never efficient. If their complaint is about runners then its just plain wrong

Incorrect.

 

I think his point was that even early on in this game using runners while you get the money needed for 200m all through donations, is more efficient than solo nats. 


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Solo running rc was never efficient. If their complaint is about runners then its just plain wrong

Incorrect.

 

I think his point was that even early on in this game using runners while you get the money needed for 200m all through donations, is more efficient than solo nats. 

 

I know, but lavas are much better than nat runners.

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Solo running rc was never efficient. If their complaint is about runners then its just plain wrong

Incorrect.

 

I think his point was that even early on in this game using runners while you get the money needed for 200m all through donations, is more efficient than solo nats. 

 

I know, but lavas are much better than nat runners.

 

Then how can you say that it is "incorrect" to say that doing solo nats has never been efficient? I am very confused at the moment.


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Solo running rc was never efficient. If their complaint is about runners then its just plain wrong

Incorrect.

 

I think his point was that even early on in this game using runners while you get the money needed for 200m all through donations, is more efficient than solo nats. 

 

I know, but lavas are much better than nat runners.

 

Then how can you say that it is "incorrect" to say that doing solo nats has never been efficient? I am very confused at the moment.

 

I didn't say that it was incorrect to say that solo nats has never been efficient.

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