Urza285 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I never really used the enchantment part of the slayer helm. I always thought that after the EOC update that clicking the special ability button or the familiar action bar (with special ability action selected) used scrolls stored on the enchanted slayer helm. So how exactly does it work? Or should I say how should it work? Edit: And I agree the helmets should be saved on death by at least the grave.I'm guessing this might have been an oversight in checking the item details. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Helmet scrolls do absolutely nothing. I've done several tasks with 100/100 or 250/250 scrolls in my helmet and not a single one activated. How it used to work, and how it should work, is that helmet scrolls activate randomly, for free (= not using up any special move points), thereby increasing dps, with the understanding that if your titan is on a low-health monster, the spec might go to waste. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Oh hm... well that's a bummer and something I think I've been really missing out on as far as using a familiar for a passive dps increase. Considering how long I've been playing and trying to keep in the 'know' of things that's pretty sad I didn't remember this. I always thought it was a space saver update. 1 Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 it was always meant as a somewhat limited automatic defensive response system, although it's not really clear why anybody would create such a ridiculous setup that only activates (randomly) when you get bonked on the head and that it only works with offensive type scrolls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well that's fine because I can see it being fine for the more relaxed slayer who doesn't want to go all pokemon trainer with their titan. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stealthchris117 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 What I don't understand is why the sides are the redish color now... That is the part I hate most about it. The pictures they have up on the runescape wikia aren't redish either. I want to know how they were able to get it to appear this way. Maybe they could fix this odd coloring... If not I'll just have to continue to use my overrides.... And I used to like the slayer helm . . . -.- If anything they should have made it darker. I don't like such bright colors on gear and it makes it hards to match to actual armor as well. ---------------------------- ';..;' ---------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I like how due to all these recolours, types, enchanted and so on there are literally hundreds of different slayer helmets. My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I like how due to all these recolours, types, enchanted and so on there are literally hundreds of ddifferent slayer helmets. 2 Slayer Helmets15 Full Slayer Helmets15 Re-inforced Slayer Helmets15 Strong Slayer Helmets15 Mighty Slayer Helmets And arguably you could take 1 off of each of the 15s as plain colour doesn't really change much from uncharged to charged (much like the non full)So we are talking 62 or 58 different helms (122 or 110 if you count the fused helms separately) Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 There are 25 different types of mighty slayer helmets and I'm sure there are more of the others as well. My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 There are 25 different types of mighty slayer helmets and I'm sure there are more of the others as well. My count was simple:5 plain5 enchanted uncharged5 enchanted and charged As they look different. In the figures for counting of fused helms I doubled this up10 plain10 enchanted10 chargedHence 122 breaks down into30 mighty30 strong30 re-inforced30 full2 slayer helm. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Has there been any word on a change being made on losing the helms on death or keeping the upgrades even if you dismantle? 1 Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Has there been any word on a change being made on losing the helms on death or keeping the upgrades even if you dismantle?Sorry, Mod Ana wants you to lose that stuff and pay again when you die. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Has there been any word on a change being made on losing the helms on death or keeping the upgrades even if you dismantle?Sorry, Mod Ana wants you to lose that stuff and pay again when you die.I would be so angry. For real there has to be something to say or at least done by next update. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Has there been any word on a change being made on losing the helms on death or keeping the upgrades even if you dismantle?Sorry, Mod Ana wants you to lose that stuff and pay again when you die.Which would not be as (key word: as) bad if the leading cause of death was something other than server issues. 2 I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Destroy on death is a bug no-no. Everyone knows that! If they just changed it I could live with this: Q: Why not allow the player to permanently unlock the ability to make tier 3 mighty slayer helmets? I don't want my 1.5k slayer points to have gone to waste!Mod Ana: With higher level equipment there always has to be some risk associated – otherwise it’d just be free stuff. Losing your basic Full Slayer Helmet and losing your Tier 3 upgraded one shouldn’t have the same penalty.So basically if you have an unupgraded slayer helm it drops normally. But if you have any upgraded slayer helm whether it be tier 1-3 it gets completely destroyed? I do not think that's fair at all. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I can see their point about greater risk and having to re-upgrade but lost on death entirely is a joke. If you die there is still the risk of losing it, but it should only be lost if it comes outside the gravestone and it certainly should not be outright destroyed. Replaced with unupgraded should be the penalty - you still have to do all the upgrading but you don't lose a few hundred k worth of helm construction items. 1 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helical Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I can see their point about greater risk and having to re-upgrade but lost on death entirely is a joke. If you die there is still the risk of losing it, but it should only be lost if it comes outside the gravestone and it certainly should not be outright destroyed. Replaced with unupgraded should be the penalty - you still have to do all the upgrading but you don't lose a few hundred k worth of helm construction items.I think a better method would be to buy the ability to upgrade the helm and then require money (or maybe even black masks, focus sights, and hexcrests) to upgrade. That way there would still be risk dying with it, but you wouldn't have to get 1000 slayer points which can take a while every time you die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 My bad. If you die with the MSH, and it goes into your grave, it will be intact upon retrieval (but will lose all of its teleport charges). Only if you lose it completely will you have to rebuild it and pay again. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 My bad. If you die with the MSH, and it goes into your grave, it will be intact upon retrieval (but will lose all of its teleport charges). Only if you lose it completely will you have to rebuild it and pay again. Well, that still isn't very good. If someone put all of their fero rings into that, well, they are in a bad spot wouldn't they? Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W aldo Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 My bad. If you die with the MSH, and it goes into your grave, it will be intact upon retrieval (but will lose all of its teleport charges). Only if you lose it completely will you have to rebuild it and pay again. Well, that still isn't very good. If someone put all of their fero rings into that, well, they are in a bad spot wouldn't they? Then don't put all your fero rings into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Which kind of defeats the purpose of having that helmet anyway... I don't want to have to withdraw a new fero every time, and the helmet enchantment pretty much fixed that, apart from the death issue. 2 Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Also as long as you stock signs of respite you should never lose anything from your grave. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Also as long as you stock signs of respite you should never lose anything from your grave.Until Jagex's servers and/or your internet crash for more than an hour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Also as long as you stock signs of respite you should never lose anything from your grave.Until Jagex's servers and/or your internet crash for more than an hour.Yeah I could see that happen. I wish jagex servers would have a fail safe were the global timer was saved or something. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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