Future Update Discussions

[Sy_Accursed]

Interested tidbit to do with lore in the MPD FAQ

 

Q: Why did Sliske invite Brassica Prime, but not some of the desert deities such as Tumeken and Elidinis?

Mod Ollie: Tumeken is separated into lesser deities and Elidinis is absent from Gielinor. Sliske wanted his event to be exclusive, so only invited the gods he felt were the most important/powerful. With all the history they have together, Icthlarin was invited mainly to rub it in his face.

 

Seems to imply that Tumeken's dream which created Het, Scarabas, Ampken and Crondis has literally split him up and that he can't awaken/reform without those 4 ceasing to exist - a feat that is perhaps impossible when they have been dismantled/controlled by Amascut and we have only restored Ampken for sure. (Maybe Scarabas too, but that's less explicitly dealt with so could go either way).

 

Going more speculative and tangential:

Also makes me wonder if Tumeken can divide up like that whether or not some of the other lesser deities (eg Karamjan and Fremmy gods) may not be related to him as well. Especially if we consider in Missing My Mummy we fight 5 Tumeken's Shadows in total to reunite his shadow with his body which could imply there are actually 5 facets of Tumeken out there.

 

Plus you could logically connect him with Karamja perhaps in that the desert kingdoms were a jungle before Amascut went bad. If we assume the jungle of Ape Atoll is something akin to what the desert was (based on the wise monkey guys choice to live there) then there is a landscape linkage between the desert and Karamja. Also looking at npcs like the tribesman that seem to be native there is an ethnicity similarity to the people found in the desert. So all told it doesn't seem like it'd be too great of a leap to suggest perhaps Tumeken was trying to expand his dominion circa 2nd age into the equally jungle lands of Karamja and that the Karamjan deity is another of his facets with the tribal people there being the remains of his attempted settlement of the land.

[helring]

Interested tidbit to do with lore in the MPD FAQ

 

Q: Why did Sliske invite Brassica Prime, but not some of the desert deities such as Tumeken and Elidinis?

Mod Ollie: Tumeken is separated into lesser deities and Elidinis is absent from Gielinor. Sliske wanted his event to be exclusive, so only invited the gods he felt were the most important/powerful. With all the history they have together, Icthlarin was invited mainly to rub it in his face.

 

Seems to imply that Tumeken's dream which created Het, Scarabas, Ampken and Crondis has literally split him up and that he can't awaken/reform without those 4 ceasing to exist - a feat that is perhaps impossible when they have been dismantled/controlled by Amascut and we have only restored Ampken for sure. (Maybe Scarabas too, but that's less explicitly dealt with so could go either way).

 

Going more speculative and tangential:

Also makes me wonder if Tumeken can divide up like that whether or not some of the other lesser deities (eg Karamjan and Fremmy gods) may not be related to him as well. Especially if we consider in Missing My Mummy we fight 5 Tumeken's Shadows in total to reunite his shadow with his body which could imply there are actually 5 facets of Tumeken out there.

 

Plus you could logically connect him with Karamja perhaps in that the desert kingdoms were a jungle before Amascut went bad. If we assume the jungle of Ape Atoll is something akin to what the desert was (based on the wise monkey guys choice to live there) then there is a landscape linkage between the desert and Karamja. Also looking at npcs like the tribesman that seem to be native there is an ethnicity similarity to the people found in the desert. So all told it doesn't seem like it'd be too great of a leap to suggest perhaps Tumeken was trying to expand his dominion circa 2nd age into the equally jungle lands of Karamja and that the Karamjan deity is another of his facets with the tribal people there being the remains of his attempted settlement of the land.

 

Thats an interesting idea. Or it could be 5 facets Het, Crondis, Apmeken, Scabaras, and the Kharid-Ib.

[Aiel]

Interested tidbit to do with lore in the MPD FAQ

 

Q: Why did Sliske invite Brassica Prime, but not some of the desert deities such as Tumeken and Elidinis?

Mod Ollie: Tumeken is separated into lesser deities and Elidinis is absent from Gielinor. Sliske wanted his event to be exclusive, so only invited the gods he felt were the most important/powerful. With all the history they have together, Icthlarin was invited mainly to rub it in his face.

 

NO I WONT LET BRASSICA PRIME BECOME A THING

[Alg]

NO I WONT LET BRASSICA PRIME BECOME A THING

Your move, desert pantheon.

 

In all seriousness, they could easily retcon him into being a serious thing. There's an open space for a nature god now, I believe...

[Ambler]

So... What happens when Brassica Prime wins Sliske's Competition? :lol:

[helring]

So... What happens when Brassica Prime wins Sliske's Competition? :lol:

 

We find the god of corned beef and we feast!

[Quyneax]

 

NO I WONT LET BRASSICA PRIME BECOME A THING

Your move, desert pantheon.

 

In all seriousness, they could easily retcon him into being a serious thing. There's an open space for a nature god now, I believe...

 

As silly as it is, I have a lot less trouble with a cabbage becoming a god by exposure to Elder Artefacts than with some other writing that I've had the misfortune to read *cough* any fanfiction *cough*. Cabbages are lifeforms, and there's no particular reason to enforce a rigid plant/animal separation, especially with tanglefoots and mutated zygomites and jade vines and jadinkos around.

 

Of course, one wonders what strain of cabbage lives long enough to become a god in the first place - perhaps exposure isn't the best theory. Maybe Brassica Prime was originally a toxic species of cabbage, and poisoned a lesser god, or maybe Brassica was dressed up as head of a scarecrow, wearing the Crown Archival and stabbing a god with it?

[Hedgehog]

He was a Draynor Manor cabbage

[Sy_Accursed]

Who says he even IS a cabbage.

 

Perhaps he's some random elf or thzaar or human or other species that attained godhood and decided to become a cabbage.

 

My theory is he is the perfect specimen created by the Dragonkin to break their ties to the Stone of Jas. With the link severed the exposure made him in to a god and thus he managed to escape and chose to take on an unassuming form so as to never be discovered.

[strilmus]

my headcanon is that when we used that normal cabbage to [bleep] with the original black knights in the previous iteration of the quest, it ascended to godhood from the ritual, thereby robbing it of the power it was supposed to grant to the witch

 

(it became a god because the relative increase in power is greater for a cabbage than a human)

[ilovecuttingyews]

Or Brassica Prime is an elder god. ALL HAIL BRASSICA PRIME, CREATOR OF GEILINOR!

[Wkw]

I'd laugh if the cabbage is Jas.

On another hand, could someone make a video macro of everyone saying "..the Stone of Jas" and mash it into Epic Sax Guy?

[HunterDexter]

Who says he even IS a cabbage.

 

Perhaps he's some random elf or thzaar or human or other species that attained godhood and decided to become a cabbage.

 

My theory is he is the perfect specimen created by the Dragonkin to break their ties to the Stone of Jas. With the link severed the exposure made him in to a god and thus he managed to escape and chose to take on an unassuming form so as to never be discovered.

 

Or as Melzar the Mad said:

 

CABBAGE OF JAS!!!

 

EDIT: I think Mod Osborne said Brassica gained godhood while Guthix was asleep. If anyone could find this info, please share it, because there was some other stuff about him in it too. :p

[Sy_Accursed]

 

Who says he even IS a cabbage.

 

Perhaps he's some random elf or thzaar or human or other species that attained godhood and decided to become a cabbage.

 

My theory is he is the perfect specimen created by the Dragonkin to break their ties to the Stone of Jas. With the link severed the exposure made him in to a god and thus he managed to escape and chose to take on an unassuming form so as to never be discovered.

 

Or as Melzar the Mad said:

 

CABBAGE OF JAS!!!

 

EDIT: I think Mod Osborne said Brassica gained godhood while Guthix was asleep. If anyone could find this info, please share it, because there was some other stuff about him in it too. :P

 

 

 

Only one I know of is 2-3 podcasts back Osbourne said Brassica Prime was allowed, by Guthix, to stay through the edicts as he is so weak.

Which directly disproves the notion he ascended during Guthix's sleep (the 2nd one anyway) since if he had then it would simply be a case of he is here inside the edicts with no Guthix involvement.

 

Of course he could've ascended during Guthix's first sleep, but that's not exactly a big deal as the 2nd age was the age of the gods anyway.

[Hedgehog]

 

Not my picture

 

Looks like we're getting Tuska content. I'm interested.

 

Also relieved that the barrows update doesn't involve upgrade kits.

[Nobody]

More T90 gear including shields. Doesn't seem likely to be T90 power armor since there is already mage and range and that says all classes. I'm intrigued.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Level 90 Tank gear, perhaps?

[Sy_Accursed]

No doubt this will be all 3 t90 tank sets and maybe a hybrid, just to add a nail in the coffin of pop gear unless of course it crumbles to dust.

Barrows after all is known for being all combats.

 

Intrigued how the 3 at a time then leader thing will work:

Is this 'leader' a new character or ne of the 7 existing bros?

If the leader is a new character who will be excluded from the fight?

 

Tuska content sounds intriguing, presumably these monsters mark Tuska's imminent arrival.

[Hedgehog]

No doubt this will be all 3 t90 tank sets, just to add a nail in the coffin of pop gear unless of course it crumbles to dust.

 

Intrigued how the 3 at a time then leader thing will work:

Is this 'leader' a new character or ne of the 7 existing bros?

If the leader is a new character who will be excluded from the fight?

 

Tuska content sounds intriguing, presumably these monsters mark Tuska's imminent arrival.

POP is low level content. It needs to become obsolete at some point.

[Urza285]

Has anyone thought that t90 was meant to be special? I mean I wouldn't get that vibe if everything was degrade to dust. Since t90 is exactly that I'm getting the message to not use this stuff all wily nilly. They intend players to obtain it for special things like bossing or hard quests.

[Sy_Accursed]

 

No doubt this will be all 3 t90 tank sets, just to add a nail in the coffin of pop gear unless of course it crumbles to dust.

 

Intrigued how the 3 at a time then leader thing will work:

Is this 'leader' a new character or ne of the 7 existing bros?

If the leader is a new character who will be excluded from the fight?

 

Tuska content sounds intriguing, presumably these monsters mark Tuska's imminent arrival.

POP is low level content. It needs to become obsolete at some point.

 

 

Since when is level 90 skills and lvl 85 armour low-levelled content?

Last I checked that's near enough top-tier equipment and one that's under a year old too.

[Hedgehog]

 

 

No doubt this will be all 3 t90 tank sets, just to add a nail in the coffin of pop gear unless of course it crumbles to dust.

 

Intrigued how the 3 at a time then leader thing will work:

Is this 'leader' a new character or ne of the 7 existing bros?

If the leader is a new character who will be excluded from the fight?

 

Tuska content sounds intriguing, presumably these monsters mark Tuska's imminent arrival.

POP is low level content. It needs to become obsolete at some point.

 

 

Since when is level 90 skills and lvl 85 armour low-levelled content?

Last I checked that's near enough top-tier equipment and one that's under a year old too.

 

Ever since 85 became less than 99

[Sy_Accursed]

That's just stupid. You can't claim everything is not high-level just because it is less than max.

[HunterDexter]

Soon 5 prestige is low-leveled!

[Hedgehog]

It's even stupider to think that level 85 armor should be the best in a game where skills go up to 99 and 99 is very easy to achieve.