Ammako Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Surely I'm not the only person who thinks 1-update a month is a fair tradeoff for having them spend more time on fixing issues with the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Surely I'm not the only person who thinks 1-update a month is a fair tradeoff for having them spend more time on fixing issues with the game. Most definetly. Pff, i'm seriously bummed out with the legacy mode. Like the solo/multi toggle wasn't horrible already I foresee not being able to attack legacy-noobs. I know the intention isn't for PVP just yet but it's just getting needlessly confusing now. Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Surely I'm not the only person who thinks 1-update a month is a fair tradeoff for having them spend more time on fixing issues with the game Yes sure, I would be happy with that if the many other issues with the game were being worked on ,but when its caused byrehashing the same problem over and over again it gets frustrating 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Read the FAQ, it says that nothing will prevent EoC mode people from attacking Legacy mode people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Hehe, alright, i'll go do that. cheers! Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinPete112 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 They already said you will need EoC for the more complex bosses. I wont use legacy but literally anything to keep this game from dying Sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDexter Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 God, I dislike NIS and EOC al lot, I mean A LOT. But no way I'm voting for Legacy Mode, it would become way too imbalanced to incorporate both modes into the game. They've laid a foundation with EOC, which they are now improving. Let them work on that and perfect it so it works for most people.Jagex is really getting desperate. :s 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 They already said you will need EoC for the more complex bosses. I wont use legacy but literally anything to keep this game from dying Instantfixes don't exist. inb4 remove eoc Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 They should've just rebalanced combat styles/equipment (and give every piece of armor a proportional HP boost so Nex armor wasn't so ridiculously broken) and left out the whole adrenaline/ability system in the first place. Instead they just overcomplicated everything and ironically made things progressively less balanced than they originally were. I think it's good that they're recognizing that EoC sorta sucks though. But they're too stupid to realize it'd be wiser to either go 100% forward or completely revert altogether; now we're just going to get a half-assed legacy system AND a half-assed EoC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 What are the poll results looking like in game currently? Am at work so can't look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 What are the poll results looking like in game currently? Am at work so can't look.71% yes My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Quick question: Do they have a way to make this happen without it being unbalanced in either direction, siphoning developer manpower away from all of the other updates that got delayed to this year, or being completely redundant because Momentum and OSRS both exist? I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I liked the old combat system more but this doesn't sound like a good option either. Like some have already said they should just go with one option and try to make that better. Basically having 2 games within one will make it impossible to get in balance. And since the balance is already off this won't do any better. Not sure what to vote. I'm not fan of EoC but I can't see them bringing the old combat system back after so much time spent with EoC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Not happy with this, it'll either basically be Momentum ++, with the older interfaces. And also, if the current votes are close (70:30?) Then that's 30% of players who won't want this. I guess it's time for me to start playing 07 seriously. :wall: ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Legacy mode is the stupidest move they could possibly make in my book. They can barely run 1 combat system without long standing issues and buggering things up in near every update, half the time for no apparent reason with the changes being reverted months later. Asking them to run 2 concurrently is just asking for a mess. Not to mention the major brain blending it'll do to anyone trying to join the game new trying to understand 2 combat systems. Plus jagex is useless at balance and scaling its pretty much a given 1 combat mode will out class the other rendering the other pointless and given the parameters we have that useless one is likely to be legacy mode. But alas it will win based on the old combat fanboys who won't think things through beyond 'yay old rs' without really considering the greater implications or the fact this new legacy mode is likely to be rather divergent from pre-eoc by the time jagex is done with it. So we can have a few weeks of nostalgia fueled returns followed by dead content and rants on how it was ruined. 3 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazhor Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Can we safely assume that a majority of the RS£ playerbase has been smoking some funky [bleep] if they think that legacy would be good. 1 Visit my blog! Click the madness for more madness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownToFletch Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 And suddenly AGS, D Claws and SGS skyrocket. Which makes me wonder, since Chaotic claws are made from D Claws, will; they feature the ability also?I'm hoping they'll get a special but that it will be unique from the D claws one. You know, it'd be nice if they improved the special on the Abyssal Whip. Frankly, I'd like to see them bring back the original special attack for the Abyssal Whip, where it used to hit for 100% damage -- or hit for nothing at all. That was consider too OP in the day, but as a lower caste weapon it'd restore some of the the utility of the whip and make Abby Demons worth doing again. The improved Whip special was useful in that it gave you a multiple attack feature, plus poison, which I'd like to see returned to the game as well. As middling weapons, it'd make these items useful to those people who cannot wield or obtain chaotics or drygores. I agree with everything you've said here, minus the making it worth it to do abby demons again Whips are like, 5k lol. Rhetoric aside, they're worth around 111k at the moment. If they were worth 5k, they'd be worth buying and alking for cash. compared to when they were worth millions years ago, 111k is nothing. After using abilities for however long they've been in game, there's no way I could go back to the old "click and wait" style of combat.this. no way I'd go back now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leik Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is absolutely [bleep]ing retarded. We already have Momentum and soon Revolution, for [bleep]s sake. 2 LIVERPOOL WILL WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE THIS SEASON. [01:24:34] CJ Hunnicutt: it takes skill to be that [bleep]ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinPete112 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I truly do not understand why people are getting so mad. If you dont want to use it, don't use it. There are lots of people who want the old combat system for PvP/Pures/ect.Plus the Q&A fleshed it out enough that it seem decent enough, it will NEVER be truly balanced, JAGEX ADMITTED THIS, then again what the hell is balanced in this game 1 Sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I truly do not understand why people are getting so mad. If you dont want to use it, don't use it. There are lots of people who want the old combat system for PvP/Pures/ect.Plus the Q&A fleshed it out enough that it seem decent enough, it will NEVER be truly balanced, JAGEX ADMITTED THIS, then again what the hell is balanced in this game No, but by allowing them to develop this will probably cost development resources on other updates that are already overdue. 5 Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 It worries me alot how most of the comments on here and that I've seen on reddit are a resoundsing and well reasoned 'what the heck Jagex, this is a rediculous and terrible idea', yet the poll is a white wash in favour of it. Are that much of the population that moronic and fundamentalist nostaligia heads. It seems a very whacked out priority of Jagex to be investing far more in getting back old players who have quit already (and will most likely quite again at the drop of a hat even if they do come back for a short period), than in getting in the new players that this game really needs to survive. Which as others have said is not goig to improve by making the combat system even more confusing and off putting to a new player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 They should've waited for the special attack update to be released before starting this legacy mode poll. I think momentum + special attacks will pretty much be equivalent to legacy mode, except for the "old interfaces" and other nostalgia pandering. Also, EoC and legacy mode should not be "balanced". EoC should be superior to legacy mode in xp rates, similarly to how non-momentum is superior to momentum. If you want good xp rates, you should have to put effort in. Turning on Lay-Zee-Boi mode should significantly deduct from your xp rates, otherwise everyone who hasn't tried EoC will never learn how to use it, because there would be no real motivation to try it out. Momentum babbies are already bad enough. One more thing: they should've given us examples as to what developments this legacy mode would be detracting from. Elf City vs. Inventor got very close, because people knew what it meant if one won over the other. If you give us a simple "YES" or "NO", most players would feel guilt-tripped to say "YES" because they feel like they're just "ruining it for everyone" if they go with "NO". [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I truly do not understand why people are getting so mad. If you dont want to use it, don't use it. There are lots of people who want the old combat system for PvP/Pures/ect.Plus the Q&A fleshed it out enough that it seem decent enough, it will NEVER be truly balanced, JAGEX ADMITTED THIS, then again what the hell is balanced in this gameNo, but by allowing them to develop this will probably cost development resources on other updates that are already overdue....Damn it, I wanted to post that. :-( If it really was "don't like it don't use it", I'd vote for this thing: choice is good. If there's even a chance that it'll cause some updates we've been waiting a couple of years for to be delayed, or if they end up being half-assed... Then what's the point, really? Is it really worth sacrificing features from the current game to pander to players who quit years ago or who are already playing it in OSRS? If they were going to do something like this, they should have done it during the EoC beta. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinPete112 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I truly do not understand why people are getting so mad. If you dont want to use it, don't use it. There are lots of people who want the old combat system for PvP/Pures/ect.Plus the Q&A fleshed it out enough that it seem decent enough, it will NEVER be truly balanced, JAGEX ADMITTED THIS, then again what the hell is balanced in this gameNo, but by allowing them to develop this will probably cost development resources on other updates that are already overdue....Damn it, I wanted to post that. :-( If it really was "don't like it don't use it", I'd vote for this thing: choice is good. If there's even a chance that it'll cause some updates we've been waiting a couple of years for to be delayed, or if they end up being half-assed... Then what's the point, really? Is it really worth sacrificing features from the current game to pander to players who quit years ago or who are already playing it in OSRS? If they were going to do something like this, they should have done it during the EoC beta. This is all assuming they would actually work on those updates. We know Jagex has a track record for neglecting updates people actually want. What im saying is this negativity is insane since the only people who are going to use it are.1. People who want to afk more2. PvPers3. New players EDIT: If there is ANYTHING we should be mad about, its the fact BXP is going to be a FLAT 2X ALL WEEKEND 1 Sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Old-style BH/PvP worlds with legacy mode and brawler drops would be good. I can't imagine it being balanced for pvm combat. best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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