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Surely I'm not the only person who thinks 1-update a month is a fair tradeoff for having them spend more time on fixing issues with the game.

 

Most definetly.

 

Pff, i'm seriously bummed out with the legacy mode. Like the solo/multi toggle wasn't horrible already I foresee not being able to attack legacy-noobs. I know the intention isn't for PVP just yet but it's just getting needlessly confusing now.

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Surely I'm not the only person who thinks 1-update a month is a fair tradeoff for having them spend more time on fixing issues with the game

 

 

Yes sure, I would be happy with that if the many other issues with the game were being worked on ,but when its caused byrehashing the same problem over and over again it gets frustrating

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God, I dislike NIS and EOC al lot, I mean A LOT. But no way I'm voting for Legacy Mode, it would become way too imbalanced to incorporate both modes into the game. They've laid a foundation with EOC, which they are now improving. Let them work on that and perfect it so it works for most people.

Jagex is really getting desperate. :s

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They should've just rebalanced combat styles/equipment (and give every piece of armor a proportional HP boost so Nex armor wasn't so ridiculously broken) and left out the whole adrenaline/ability system in the first place.

 

Instead they just overcomplicated everything and ironically made things progressively less balanced than they originally were.

 

I think it's good that they're recognizing that EoC sorta sucks though. But they're too stupid to realize it'd be wiser to either go 100% forward or completely revert altogether; now we're just going to get a half-assed legacy system AND a half-assed EoC.

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I liked the old combat system more but this doesn't sound like a good option either. Like some have already said they should just go with one option and try to make that better. Basically having 2 games within one will make it impossible to get in balance. And since the balance is already off this won't do any better. Not sure what to vote. I'm not fan of EoC but I can't see them bringing the old combat system back after so much time spent with EoC. 

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Not happy with this, it'll either basically be Momentum ++, with the older interfaces.

 

And also, if the current votes are close (70:30?) Then that's 30% of players who won't want this.

 

I guess it's time for me to start playing 07 seriously. :wall:

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Legacy mode is the stupidest move they could possibly make in my book.

 

They can barely run 1 combat system without long standing issues and buggering things up in near every update, half the time for no apparent reason with the changes being reverted months later. Asking them to run 2 concurrently is just asking for a mess.

 

Not to mention the major brain blending it'll do to anyone trying to join the game new trying to understand 2 combat systems.

 

Plus jagex is useless at balance and scaling its pretty much a given 1 combat mode will out class the other rendering the other pointless and given the parameters we have that useless one is likely to be legacy mode.

 

But alas it will win based on the old combat fanboys who won't think things through beyond 'yay old rs' without really considering the greater implications or the fact this new legacy mode is likely to be rather divergent from pre-eoc by the time jagex is done with it. So we can have a few weeks of nostalgia fueled returns followed by dead content and rants on how it was ruined. 

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And suddenly AGS, D Claws and SGS skyrocket.

 

Which makes me wonder, since Chaotic claws are made from D Claws, will; they feature the ability also?

I'm hoping they'll get a special but that it will be unique from the D claws one.

 

 

You know, it'd be nice if they improved the special on the Abyssal Whip. Frankly, I'd like to see them bring back the original special attack for the Abyssal Whip, where it used to hit for 100% damage -- or hit for nothing at all. That was consider too OP in the day, but as a lower caste weapon it'd restore some of the the utility of the whip and make Abby Demons worth doing again.

 

The improved Whip special was useful in that it gave you a multiple attack feature, plus poison, which I'd like to see returned to the game as well. 

 

As middling weapons, it'd make these items useful to those people who cannot wield or obtain chaotics or drygores.

 

I agree with everything you've said here, minus the making it worth it to do abby demons again

 

Whips are like, 5k lol. 

 

Rhetoric aside, they're worth around 111k at the moment. If they were worth 5k, they'd be worth buying and alking for cash.

 

compared to when they were worth millions years ago, 111k is nothing.

 

After using abilities for however long they've been in game, there's no way I could go back to the old "click and wait" style of combat.

this. no way I'd go back now.

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This is absolutely [bleep]ing retarded. We already have Momentum and soon Revolution, for [bleep]s sake.

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I truly do not understand why people are getting so mad. If you dont want to use it, don't use it. There are lots of people who want the old combat system for PvP/Pures/ect.

Plus the Q&A fleshed it out enough that it seem decent enough, it will NEVER be truly balanced, JAGEX ADMITTED THIS, then again what the hell is balanced in this game

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I truly do not understand why people are getting so mad. If you dont want to use it, don't use it. There are lots of people who want the old combat system for PvP/Pures/ect.

Plus the Q&A fleshed it out enough that it seem decent enough, it will NEVER be truly balanced, JAGEX ADMITTED THIS, then again what the hell is balanced in this game

 

No, but by allowing them to develop this will probably cost development resources on other updates that are already overdue.

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It worries me alot how most of the comments on here and that I've seen on reddit are a resoundsing and well reasoned 'what the heck Jagex, this is a rediculous and terrible idea', yet the poll is a white wash in favour of it.  Are that much of the population that moronic and fundamentalist nostaligia heads.       It seems a very whacked out priority of Jagex to be investing far more in getting back old players who have quit already (and will most likely quite again at the drop of a hat even if they do come back for a short period), than in getting in the new players that this game really needs to survive. Which as others have said is not goig to improve by making the combat system even more confusing and off putting to a new player.

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They should've waited for the special attack update to be released before starting this legacy mode poll. I think momentum + special attacks will pretty much be equivalent to legacy mode, except for the "old interfaces" and other nostalgia pandering.

 

Also, EoC and legacy mode should not be "balanced". EoC should be superior to legacy mode in xp rates, similarly to how non-momentum is superior to momentum. If you want good xp rates, you should have to put effort in. Turning on Lay-Zee-Boi mode should significantly deduct from your xp rates, otherwise everyone who hasn't tried EoC will never learn how to use it, because there would be no real motivation to try it out. Momentum babbies are already bad enough.

 

One more thing: they should've given us examples as to what developments this legacy mode would be detracting from. Elf City vs. Inventor got very close, because people knew what it meant if one won over the other. If you give us a simple "YES" or "NO", most players would feel guilt-tripped to say "YES" because they feel like they're just "ruining it for everyone" if they go with "NO".

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I truly do not understand why people are getting so mad. If you dont want to use it, don't use it. There are lots of people who want the old combat system for PvP/Pures/ect.

Plus the Q&A fleshed it out enough that it seem decent enough, it will NEVER be truly balanced, JAGEX ADMITTED THIS, then again what the hell is balanced in this game

No, but by allowing them to develop this will probably cost development resources on other updates that are already overdue.

...Damn it, I wanted to post that. :-(

 

If it really was "don't like it don't use it", I'd vote for this thing: choice is good. If there's even a chance that it'll cause some updates we've been waiting a couple of years for to be delayed, or if they end up being half-assed... Then what's the point, really? Is it really worth sacrificing features from the current game to pander to players who quit years ago or who are already playing it in OSRS? If they were going to do something like this, they should have done it during the EoC beta.

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I truly do not understand why people are getting so mad. If you dont want to use it, don't use it. There are lots of people who want the old combat system for PvP/Pures/ect.

Plus the Q&A fleshed it out enough that it seem decent enough, it will NEVER be truly balanced, JAGEX ADMITTED THIS, then again what the hell is balanced in this game

No, but by allowing them to develop this will probably cost development resources on other updates that are already overdue.

...Damn it, I wanted to post that. :-(

 

If it really was "don't like it don't use it", I'd vote for this thing: choice is good. If there's even a chance that it'll cause some updates we've been waiting a couple of years for to be delayed, or if they end up being half-assed... Then what's the point, really? Is it really worth sacrificing features from the current game to pander to players who quit years ago or who are already playing it in OSRS? If they were going to do something like this, they should have done it during the EoC beta.

 

This is all assuming they would actually work on those updates. We know Jagex has a track record for neglecting updates people actually want. What im saying is this negativity is insane since the only people who are going to use it are.

1. People who want to afk more

2. PvPers

3. New players

 

EDIT: If there is ANYTHING we should be mad about, its the fact BXP is going to be a FLAT 2X ALL WEEKEND

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Old-style BH/PvP worlds with legacy mode and brawler drops would be good.  I can't imagine it being balanced for pvm combat.

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