Hajutze Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 They have to bring everything up to date not only for graphics. The best way to "save" RuneScape IMHO is to rework a lot of things from the start. Like ... delete them and do them from square 1. Most of the mechanics are outdated, some of the skills are outdates even in-game speaking (smithing, d'oh). If they want to milk the cow - sure add a new skill. If they want the game to survive AND attract AND keep new players - reconstruct it (no Construction pun intended). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Their biggest error over the years was probably that they did not keep pace with reworking old content.They should've had clear thresholds for graphics and gameplay that when something reached it immediately got on a high priority to do list for rework. That way skills would've been reworked long before they became broken skills with semi-attempted fixes slapped on that in themselves now need a rework. Plus that way they'd of been constantly rewriting older code to slightly newer better functioning code when there wasn't a huge leap to be made, opposed to having like decade old coding messes that you can't just tidy/upgrade easily instead you have to look to entirely rewrite from the ground up. That being said it wouldn't be too late to save the game in that extent. Rejig the teams so its 50:50 or 70:30 focus on rework vs new content. Start big and work your way down the list allowing focus to drift back to new content when the big rework items (skills and minigames) are cleared whilst leaving enough focus for the smaller work to continue - graphical overhauls, tweaks etc (essentially ninja fixes on a slightly larger scale). If they were systematic about it it needn't be an overly chaotic process to deal with since fundamentally the gatherer skills and artisan skills can be near carbon copies of each other. Ie recode mining from the ground up then you can copy and paste that code and swap in trees/fish for ores and cut a solid 70% of the work out of reworking wc and fishing - the remaining 30% being graphics, new top end and any extra mechanics to fix up or to add in. 1 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I would really like an emphasis on updating the graphics as well as the skills this year. In the second half of 2012 and the first half of 2013, they had a massive push on graphical updates that came seemingly out of nowhere. They completely overhauled Al-Karid, Draynor, Rimmington, The Wizards Tower, Castle Wars, the GE and pretty much all of the dungeons, all while keeping a regular weekly update schedule. It really showed how quickly they can update things when they want to. I would really like to see another push on rejuvination like this again. I personally would like port phasmatys redone the most, because whilst theres not a lot specifically in the town, i go through it a heck of a lot heading to celestials, araxxor, farming runs, penguins etc and it looks dire. Others in need are places like Ardy and Yanille, thoough ardy would deffinitely be a massive project. If the game is going to survive it needs to be completely updated to the standards of 2014. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Ardy was updated once in its history. I think Ardy can be placed in line with Fally... Both have had a reaphical revamp in their history, but could use some polish to be up to standards. Heck, Fally looks the same in old school as it does in rs3, but it doesn't look bad, per say. Yanille however, has never ever been touched. And though I want it to be, I also equally want to be preserved forever!!! =3 1 Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Ardy was updated once in its history. I think Ardy can be placed in line with Fally... Both have had a reaphical revamp in their history, but could use some polish to be up to standards. Heck, Fally looks the same in old school as it does in rs3, but it doesn't look bad, per say. Yanille however, has never ever been touched. And though I want it to be, I also equally want to be preserved forever!!! =3 It is preserved through OSRS. 1 Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 There is a reddit compiling the december 20 Q&A stream here: http://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/2pqkyr/tldw_031_mod_mark_qa_vorago_rewards/ There isnt much more than a lot of vorago fanboyism going on. They have an outfit of omens and new bombi vorago pet. I guess the soul reaper outfit wasnt enough for pvming. Also the biggest disappointments are: - hiest didnt go as they planned and not enough players playing it- voice acting has pretty much been disappointing- seasonal highscores didnt go as they hoped- admitted their BA rework wasnt justified by the current player use I wonder if im just having a negative day. A lot of the things listed in the info dump have this negative vibe. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J35u5_M4 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 They should take like 6 months - 1 year worth of updates to rework all the shit they've left to rot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 They have to bring everything up to date not only for graphics. The best way to "save" RuneScape IMHO is to rework a lot of things from the start. Like ... delete them and do them from square 1. Most of the mechanics are outdated, some of the skills are outdates even in-game speaking (smithing, d'oh). If they want to milk the cow - sure add a new skill. If they want the game to survive AND attract AND keep new players - reconstruct it (no Construction pun intended).Something tells me that they'd axe noncombat outright if they had the chance to rework everything. There's a fair bit to suggest that they don't really know what to do with skilling anymore, even getting away from how much they've been emphasizing bosses lately. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Ardy was updated once in its history. I think Ardy can be placed in line with Fally... Both have had a reaphical revamp in their history, but could use some polish to be up to standards. Heck, Fally looks the same in old school as it does in rs3, but it doesn't look bad, per say. Yanille however, has never ever been touched. And though I want it to be, I also equally want to be preserved forever!!! =3I can still remember the falador graphical update though :P Everything was made white. This was when RS was still in fixed mode for everyone though. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 By voice acting being disappointing do they mean not many players turn audio on for quests, so its not financially worthwhile to do it? If so thats frustrating because I love the voice acting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajutze Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Something tells me that they'd axe noncombat outright if they had the chance to rework everything. There's a fair bit to suggest that they don't really know what to do with skilling anymore, even getting away from how much they've been emphasizing bosses lately. TBH it's not so hard ...You kill a monster - you get part 1. Can't get it from anywhere else (except trading).You use gathering - you get 100(0) of x. Can't get it from anywhere else (except trading).You use an artisan skill - you make part 2 using the 100 (or 1000) of x and combine part 1 + part 2 to make a weapon/armor w/e makes you happy. Can't make it another way (can buy the end result). Monster hunting - profitableGathering - profitable (can't make/repair them weapons/armors with using the gathering skills)Artisan skills - profitable (can't make/repair ... meh same as the above) Right now everything drops the end results from the gathering/artisan skills making them useless. Why bother levelling up smithing to 99 if some mid-range monster can drop the end results en masse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownToFletch Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I got a loot beam I can't use and a bunch of tiny xp lamps. Hmph!On the other hand, I'll forgive it just because the snowboarding was pretty sweet.try snowboarding in real life :D yeah, it would be sweeter if they didn't keep plowing loads of development time into once off featuresehh some of it is recycled as has been mentioned... but you're right in a way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Snowboarding in real life? I'd probably manage to injure myself lol. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Q&A about elf city tasks coverage on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/2q6smm/tldl_032_elf_tasks_podcast_challenge_barrels_and/ Quiver will get the ability to add bolts and arrows. Elf prayers and spellbook will come with elf city batch 3. Crystal armour will come with batch 3. Batch 3 updates will be quality of life updates (thieving revamp, edimmu xp buff, attuned crystal weapon changes etc.) Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Has the motherload shard reward drop table been reworked yet? Or is that in a later batch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Has the motherload shard reward drop table been reworked yet? Or is that in a later batch...As far as getting rocks i think so. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Just when you thought you wouldnt see any more hints before '15 here is one from mod stu o: Skeletons in the wildy are getting a makeover i think. More so just a replacement using the models in DOS. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Dos? Death of chivalry? Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Dos? Death of chivalry?Yes... I totally messed that up. I even knew chivalry used a 'C' too. Wow. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoko Kurama Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Just when you thought you wouldnt see any more hints before '15 here is one from mod stu o: Skeletons in the wildy are getting a makeover i think. More so just a replacement using the models in DOS. Has time to rework graphics of Skeletons that no one fights and no one cares about, but has no time to do 3 animations per pets so they can override familiars, something which everyone wants. He's their Senior Animator, and then they have the temerity to claim, sorry, we don't have enough animators to do pet animations. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Just when you thought you wouldnt see any more hints before '15 here is one from mod stu o: Skeletons in the wildy are getting a makeover i think. More so just a replacement using the models in DOS.Has time to rework graphics of Skeletons that no one fights and no one cares about, but has no time to do 3 animations per pets so they can override familiars, something which everyone wants. He's their Senior Animator, and then they have the temerity to claim, sorry, we don't have enough animators to do pet animations. Awesome!Well all of the animations are already there anyways... its a matter of plugging the things in. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 You can't just scale down the attack anims like that for the pets, if it was that easy they'd do it. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baileydafrog Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the logic of "do the graphical update i want or never update graphics again" :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the logic of "do the graphical update i want or never update graphics again" :/ Well, at the rate people insist "old graphics were better!" continuously... "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the logic of "do the graphical update i want or never update graphics again" :/ Well, at the rate people insist "old graphics were better!" continuously... Imo the only thing better about the old graphics is that they were at least more consistent around runescape. Especially quest areas haven't been updated in ages. The holy grail for example... (ugh those few polygons of the black knight titan) and for example I just completed Enlightened Journey and crashed because I forgot to move one step down at the last step. The island I crashed on had old looking trees. This makes old quests less fun.imo they should update the most outdated graphics when they are not part of something that gets updated in the future (for example whole varrock might get updated with the upcoming quest). They don't have to be big updates, as long as they update the oldest graphics I am happy. 1 http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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