Thus 148 Posted November 20, 2013 It's a shame really that anything Unicorn/Horse/Pegasus related is instantly "MLP COPYHURBLEGURBLE!" these days.While that is likely the primary cause of the lulz we're having now, there's also the niggling fact that there are a lot of people who like MLP on the staff there. So it kind of fuels the fire. Also people are incredibly leery of a television show that was originally for children that attracts a large amount of perverted grown men. Unlike furries who hide their fetishes/obsession, they openly display them through merchandising and forum avatars and lingo amongst other ways. It's scary how conventions for that show are not safe for children. Even the ones who don't fetishize it are incredibly annoying, putting it into everything it doesn't need to be in. I know what some people are thinking. Yes rule 34 exists for everything. But at least I can take my kid to a pokemon convention. People don't fetishize the characters nearly as much or at least nearly as openly. It isn't exactly grasping at straws to see that this update is an attempt to milk the franchise's popularity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golvellius 155 Posted November 20, 2013 You know it's quite possible that some of those men actually played with the toys when they were little kids.Not that I did per se, although I can readily admit to having some care bears.But, I have no desire to relive my early childhood by going to a convention on them. Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aiel 240 Posted November 20, 2013 So what about tablets that have touch screens?What about holding the button down for a predefined amount of time in order to move the mouse X pixels? Kind of like how mouse keys work out of the box?Unless they specifically say "press your num pad button X times for however many pixels you want to move the mouse cursor"Regular mice don't even work like that. that's a stupid stance for them to take. People use mousekeys/AHK because some skills like construction are incredibly clunky. They should work on fixing interfaces, not banning programs that make parts of the game playable. As far as they should be concerned, if there's a person actively sitting in front of the computer and all the actions are 1:1 (as it was previously defined, an action is moving the mouse or clicking), that should be a win. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimberly 1129 Posted November 20, 2013 You know it's quite possible that some of those men actually played with the toys when they were little kids. Not that I did per se, although I can readily admit to having some care bears. But, I have no desire to relive my early childhood by going to a convention on them. I have barbies, My Little Pony figurines, beanie babies, He-Man & GI Joe action figures, and dolls packed in a dusty corner box somewhere in my house. You may very well be right. I don't assume any MLP fan is sexually attracted to the character design, but it really is a hard stereotype to overcome regardless of when they were a fan. Regardless I'm still cool with pony pets in RuneScape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
helring 254 Posted November 20, 2013 So what about tablets that have touch screens?What about holding the button down for a predefined amount of time in order to move the mouse X pixels? Kind of like how mouse keys work out of the box?Unless they specifically say "press your num pad button X times for however many pixels you want to move the mouse cursor"Regular mice don't even work like that. that's a stupid stance for them to take. People use mousekeys/AHK because some skills like construction are incredibly clunky. They should work on fixing interfaces, not banning programs that make parts of the game playable. As far as they should be concerned, if there's a person actively sitting in front of the computer and all the actions are 1:1 (as it was previously defined, an action is moving the mouse or clicking), that should be a win. I don't have an issue with mouse keys in general. The programs though like AHK where it could automatically go to certain coordinates on the screen though are problematic. The precision that allows for over everyone else just using a mouse is an advantage. R.I.P. The olde nite. A legend is gone but not forgotten. a Faction Related Item Sink for Rune Labs. https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/a=13/c=VcG-Ir5Ijno/view-idea?idea=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ambler 816 Posted November 21, 2013 The only instance I'd ever use mousekeys would be dropping a whole inventory of items very quickly, but we have an action bar for that now...Is it really that hard to click quickly enough that you don't need to use mousekeys though? Note that this is coming from someone who does a lot of PvM, so high APM is pretty much required. :p ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hedgehog 2501 Posted November 21, 2013 The only instance I'd ever use mousekeys would be dropping a whole inventory of items very quickly, but we have an action bar for that now...Is it really that hard to click quickly enough that you don't need to use mousekeys though? Note that this is coming from someone who does a lot of PvM, so high APM is pretty much required. :PThe people who were banned for it played 07. I can't really think of any uses for mousekeys/ahk in RS, other than dropping items with a left click option (barbarian fishing). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wkw 452 Posted November 21, 2013 I can almost say with 100% certainty that when they say things like that are against the rules, they mean something like this is against the rules.. -----Using X as any single button1. First X moves mouse to coords A from wherever mouse is currently, over an item2. Second X right clicks3. Third X moves mouse to coords B, on top of the "drop" button4. Fourth X left clicks, dropping item---- What would NOT be against the rules, would be having X move the mouse in a relative position to where it is currently. So, you could effectively create the same situation above,but it would be context sensitive. If the first step required you to have your mouse on top of the item in the proper location, that is FINE, because it is 1 input = 1 output, regardless of the input Now if they say that your mouse has to move in an analogue fashion, as if you were moving the mouse on your own, that is 100% BS and can not be enforced without making the use of a touch screen illegal. Why?Because unlike a mouse, a touch screen doesn't move from coords 100,100 to 100,105 by going 100,100 100,101 100,102 100,103 100,104 100,105, it goes RIGHT from 100,100 to 100,105 And that is the same thing mousekeys does. It moves the mouse in a predetermined direction for a predetermined distance, from one input. So unless jagex makes an announcement that "non-analogue methods for moving the mouse, be they software based (mousekeys) or hardware based (touch screens) are against the rules" they really can't say "this is ok, but this is not ok because yolo"... Yes, it is an unfair advantage, but it is an advantage that those who know about can take advantage of. Buying wealth via bonds is also an unfair advantage if you don't have money to buy them with, you see. Runescape player since January 2005Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alg 2522 Posted November 21, 2013 ...What happened to "X is against the rules" meaning "X is against the rules"? 1 I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aiel 240 Posted November 21, 2013 ...What happened to "X is against the rules" meaning "X is against the rules"?well jagex stopped coherently stating what was against the rules.... 2 DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alg 2522 Posted November 21, 2013 ...What happened to "X is against the rules" meaning "X is against the rules"?well jagex stopped coherently stating what was against the rules....Touché I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mercifull 310 Posted November 21, 2013 The ponies seem a bit silly to me. We all know that concept art never looks like the final product so we won't get those big shiny eyes and neon glow it'll just be some particle effects on the horn. I'm a bit worried that some of the Jmods appear to be influencing a bit too much based on what THEY like, not what's best for the community. Potential for bad things if that keeps up. It also looks too much like an April fools... this has BETTER be a guaranteed content poll that needs 75% of the vote to pass! As for the macroing rules, the wording Jagex have used implies that people can't even use the built in accessability tools anymore as they move more than one pixel at a time. My asumption is that they have just whitelisted the behaviour of the official windows tool. There is a LOT of abuse using AHK and while many people use it legitimately, there are probably equally, if not more, people using it to skirt the rules and depressingly it's the high level and elite players doing it. Why? Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Urza285 514 Posted November 21, 2013 The ponies seem a bit silly to me. We all know that concept art never looks like the final product so we won't get those big shiny eyes and neon glow it'll just be some particle effects on the horn. I'm a bit worried that some of the Jmods appear to be influencing a bit too much based on what THEY like, not what's best for the community. Potential for bad things if that keeps up. It also looks too much like an April fools... this has BETTER be a guaranteed content poll that needs 75% of the vote to pass! As for the macroing rules, the wording Jagex have used implies that people can't even use the built in accessability tools anymore as they move more than one pixel at a time. My asumption is that they have just whitelisted the behaviour of the official windows tool. There is a LOT of abuse using AHK and while many people use it legitimately, there are probably equally, if not more, people using it to skirt the rules and depressingly it's the high level and elite players doing it. Why?Because xp waste is baaad. Anyways I am guessing they'll get the unipegusus done jusy how they did the baby troll and work it perfectly. 1 Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
helring 254 Posted November 21, 2013 The ponies seem a bit silly to me. We all know that concept art never looks like the final product so we won't get those big shiny eyes and neon glow it'll just be some particle effects on the horn. I'm a bit worried that some of the Jmods appear to be influencing a bit too much based on what THEY like, not what's best for the community. Potential for bad things if that keeps up. It also looks too much like an April fools... this has BETTER be a guaranteed content poll that needs 75% of the vote to pass! As for the macroing rules, the wording Jagex have used implies that people can't even use the built in accessability tools anymore as they move more than one pixel at a time. My asumption is that they have just whitelisted the behaviour of the official windows tool. There is a LOT of abuse using AHK and while many people use it legitimately, there are probably equally, if not more, people using it to skirt the rules and depressingly it's the high level and elite players doing it. Why? Honestly hate the Guaranteed Content Polls as they are being used in Old School and now invading the regular game. Its ok if Jagex wants to put out a poll where people can vote on what minor updates they want like in the past. The quest one was even fine because its not like we'll never get the gnome and pirate finales just because we voted for dwarves. However, when the content polls are requiring a 75% chance for content to even make it into the game then its going too far. Allowing 26% of the base to deny the rest of the players content sounds terrible for almost any online community, and especially for runescape's community where individuals are so divided on what they want and expect from the updates. I could see it getting to the point where a segment votes no on anything they won't personally use. "Another boss....no we've had too many" or "A skill update...no, I only do combat". Let alone on an update like an sgs pet that really won't hurt anyone by existing. 1 R.I.P. The olde nite. A legend is gone but not forgotten. a Faction Related Item Sink for Rune Labs. https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/a=13/c=VcG-Ir5Ijno/view-idea?idea=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Lioness 631 Posted November 21, 2013 The ponies seem a bit silly to me. We all know that concept art never looks like the final product so we won't get those big shiny eyes and neon glow it'll just be some particle effects on the horn. I'm a bit worried that some of the Jmods appear to be influencing a bit too much based on what THEY like, not what's best for the community. Potential for bad things if that keeps up. It also looks too much like an April fools... this has BETTER be a guaranteed content poll that needs 75% of the vote to pass! As for the macroing rules, the wording Jagex have used implies that people can't even use the built in accessability tools anymore as they move more than one pixel at a time. My asumption is that they have just whitelisted the behaviour of the official windows tool. There is a LOT of abuse using AHK and while many people use it legitimately, there are probably equally, if not more, people using it to skirt the rules and depressingly it's the high level and elite players doing it. Why? Honestly hate the Guaranteed Content Polls as they are being used in Old School and now invading the regular game. Its ok if Jagex wants to put out a poll where people can vote on what minor updates they want like in the past. The quest one was even fine because its not like we'll never get the gnome and pirate finales just because we voted for dwarves. However, when the content polls are requiring a 75% chance for content to even make it into the game then its going too far. Allowing 26% of the base to deny the rest of the players content sounds terrible for almost any online community, and especially for runescape's community where individuals are so divided on what they want and expect from the updates. I could see it getting to the point where a segment votes no on anything they won't personally use. "Another boss....no we've had too many" or "A skill update...no, I only do combat". Let alone on an update like an sgs pet that really won't hurt anyone by existing. Or a recent example: Choosing a ripoff of GoT over more original outfits like K_aylee's outfit. 1 Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ammako 1770 Posted November 21, 2013 The ponies seem a bit silly to me. We all know that concept art never looks like the final product so we won't get those big shiny eyes and neon glow it'll just be some particle effects on the horn. I'm a bit worried that some of the Jmods appear to be influencing a bit too much based on what THEY like, not what's best for the community. Potential for bad things if that keeps up. It also looks too much like an April fools... this has BETTER be a guaranteed content poll that needs 75% of the vote to pass! As for the macroing rules, the wording Jagex have used implies that people can't even use the built in accessability tools anymore as they move more than one pixel at a time. My asumption is that they have just whitelisted the behaviour of the official windows tool. There is a LOT of abuse using AHK and while many people use it legitimately, there are probably equally, if not more, people using it to skirt the rules and depressingly it's the high level and elite players doing it. Why? Honestly hate the Guaranteed Content Polls as they are being used in Old School and now invading the regular game. Its ok if Jagex wants to put out a poll where people can vote on what minor updates they want like in the past. The quest one was even fine because its not like we'll never get the gnome and pirate finales just because we voted for dwarves. However, when the content polls are requiring a 75% chance for content to even make it into the game then its going too far. Allowing 26% of the base to deny the rest of the players content sounds terrible for almost any online community, and especially for runescape's community where individuals are so divided on what they want and expect from the updates. I could see it getting to the point where a segment votes no on anything they won't personally use. "Another boss....no we've had too many" or "A skill update...no, I only do combat". Let alone on an update like an sgs pet that really won't hurt anyone by existing.Or a recent example: Choosing a ripoff of GoT over more original outfits like K_aylee's outfit.You're trying to make it sound like this is an objectively bad choice just because you don't like it yourself. >_> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saradomin_Mage 3562 Posted November 21, 2013 It's wintery, sure, but not Christmasy/festive :( In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quest_Cape_K 79 Posted November 21, 2013 Not the first time Jagex has used other things to base RS content off of, RS pretty much has the Dark Soul's armour of black/white knight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strilmus 753 Posted November 21, 2013 The ponies seem a bit silly to me. We all know that concept art never looks like the final product so we won't get those big shiny eyes and neon glow it'll just be some particle effects on the horn. I'm a bit worried that some of the Jmods appear to be influencing a bit too much based on what THEY like, not what's best for the community. Potential for bad things if that keeps up. It also looks too much like an April fools... this has BETTER be a guaranteed content poll that needs 75% of the vote to pass! As for the macroing rules, the wording Jagex have used implies that people can't even use the built in accessability tools anymore as they move more than one pixel at a time. My asumption is that they have just whitelisted the behaviour of the official windows tool. There is a LOT of abuse using AHK and while many people use it legitimately, there are probably equally, if not more, people using it to skirt the rules and depressingly it's the high level and elite players doing it. Why? I think it's hilarious that after everything we've been through, people draw the line at magical horselike pets frankly, since the veteran cape, i have not put much stock in the players' collective fashion sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quyneax 988 Posted November 21, 2013 I don't mind bad-looking stuff, I mind that there is no alternative :(. I want a good-looking, not-so-gaudy set of mage/melee hybrid armour. The not-so-gaudy part is a huge problem in RS, and in fantasy games in general. Also it would be nice if female armour didn't look so crazy Barbie-like, I want to protect myself, not look like a prostitute with a metal fetish :evil:. 2 Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Den 125 Posted November 21, 2013 Maybe it's to celebrate MLP Season 4 starting this saturday? :P ........::::: Rainy's YouTube Channel - Rainy's Twitter - Rainy's Facebook - Rainy's DeviantArt - Rainy's Tumblr - Rainy's Tip.It Profile :::::......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golvellius 155 Posted November 21, 2013 Maybe it's to celebrate MLP Season 4 starting this saturday? :POr maybe it's to celebrate that the toys came out 30 years ago. Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mercifull 310 Posted November 21, 2013 This was the last time I watched MLP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CnOysetlQw 2 Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omali 416 Posted November 22, 2013 It's a shame really that anything Unicorn/Horse/Pegasus related is instantly "MLP COPYHURBLEGURBLE!" these days. Jagex put in the blatant references to My Little Pony characters in Player Owned Ports, so it's easy to see the connection with other content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hedgehog 2501 Posted November 22, 2013 We get pet unicorns and ponies before Prifddinas, Menaphos, Freneskae, Acheron, Kudos Island, the Eastern Lands (beyond what we see in player-owned ports), various skill reworks, a dozen or so quests, high-level boss content, and countless other highly-anticipated updates 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites