Kaur Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 This pretty much sums the whole topic up: It is within the Rules of Runescape that discussion and ideas with relation to sexual orientation (as well as religion and politics) is prohibited, and the reason for this is that it prevents arguements and abuse as well as shielding the community. The target audience for Runescape is aimed at everyone, but the reason why this is in place is because there are people as young as 13 years old who play, and Jagex have a corporate responsibility to shield this from them until they come of age and are able to make their own decisions on the topics. When people suggest that this should be allowed in game, they fail to consider that parents of the children of who play this game are worrying about what they're being exposed to, and it's something we should all keep an open mind about. With regards to the quest that you've mentioned, it's a topic of controversy however when we take the element of childhood into consideration, prince's marry princess's in fairytales, this is what they're taught, and this is what their parents expect. There are gay communities / clans you can join, perhaps it's best you seek those out.Dr Robotnik from RuneHQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwreeTak Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Just some good to know information about the author of this thread, and since this whole troll discussion is blossoming within this thread anyway: I am not anti-gay by the way, just putting that in. You to me just became a whole lot less trustworthy though. If you really are interested in making RS better for gay people I don't think you would lie about who you are in game. that is not me what the hell Well, that is rather obvious. But it is who you say you are by your username - as well as in RSN and RSN in OSRS. So; Who are you? 1 Add me if you so wish: SwreeTak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy1 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 This pretty much sums the whole topic up: It is within the Rules of Runescape that discussion and ideas with relation to sexual orientation (as well as religion and politics) is prohibited, and the reason for this is that it prevents arguements and abuse as well as shielding the community. The target audience for Runescape is aimed at everyone, but the reason why this is in place is because there are people as young as 13 years old who play, and Jagex have a corporate responsibility to shield this from them until they come of age and are able to make their own decisions on the topics. When people suggest that this should be allowed in game, they fail to consider that parents of the children of who play this game are worrying about what they're being exposed to, and it's something we should all keep an open mind about. With regards to the quest that you've mentioned, it's a topic of controversy however when we take the element of childhood into consideration, prince's marry princess's in fairytales, this is what they're taught, and this is what their parents expect. There are gay communities / clans you can join, perhaps it's best you seek those out.Dr Robotnik from RuneHQ. yes i can understand that now but would like to point out after understanding from people here i will just hold an event once a month or something and see how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Just some good to know information about the author of this thread, and since this whole troll discussion is blossoming within this thread anyway: I am not anti-gay by the way, just putting that in. You to me just became a whole lot less trustworthy though. If you really are interested in making RS better for gay people I don't think you would lie about who you are in game. Called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorator Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it. 1 Obtained quest cape and base 92 before obtaining any 99s! Currently finishing out my 99s with the (long-distant) goal of comp cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy1 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Just some good to know information about the author of this thread, and since this whole troll discussion is blossoming within this thread anyway: I am not anti-gay by the way, just putting that in. You to me just became a whole lot less trustworthy though. If you really are interested in making RS better for gay people I don't think you would lie about who you are in game. that is not me what the hell Well, that is rather obvious. But it is who you say you are by your username - as well as in RSN and RSN in OSRS. So; Who are you? i am grooviestdog but i never said that, i havent been logged in for the last 4 hours online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy1 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it. but if it was put into the game then it would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorator Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it. but if it was put into the game then it would be good. No. If it were put into the game, it would cause a lot of controversy for almost zero benefit, and thus it would be a net negative. It's not worth whatever little dev time it would take to code, not to mention how many folks would react. Also, dude, there's an edit button on your posts; use that instead of posting multiple times in a row. Also also: Either that quoted in-game PM is you, or your listed RSN is false, or your account has been compromised (highly unlikely). Your credibility is getting pretty stretched here, mate (and that has nothing to do with your sexuality). Obtained quest cape and base 92 before obtaining any 99s! Currently finishing out my 99s with the (long-distant) goal of comp cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnitec Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it.I think I meant to come across more as it's not appropriate to ask them in game whether they'd like to marry the prince or princess directly for example, not that exposing them to it was inappropriate. Like people shouldn't be forced to give that kind of information to continue a quest whatever their age 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy1 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 my username here is my username in game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy1 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it.I think I meant to come across more as it's not appropriate to ask them in game whether they'd like to marry the prince or princess directly for example, not that exposing them to it was inappropriate. Like people shouldn't be forced to give that kind of information to continue a quest whatever their age no but they could add it in in a way that you could choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorator Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it.I think I meant to come across more as it's not appropriate to ask them in game whether they'd like to marry the prince or princess directly for example, not that exposing them to it was inappropriate. Like people shouldn't be forced to give that kind of information to continue a quest whatever their age Ehh... If the players understood the separation between the player and their character/avatar/whatever, then it's fine; you're not telling your sexuality, just your avatars, which may be different than yours. You wouldn't even be giving your sexuality, just choosing who to go with in this case, and that decision could be influenced by a number of things apart from gender and sexuality. But that's definitely more borderline. That line of reasoning does make more sense than what I thought you (and others) were saying; thanks for clarifying. my username here is my username in game So, one of the following is true:That quoted in-game PM is youYour listed RSN is false and you were lying when you typed what I quotedYour account has been compromised (highly unlikely)That picture was photoshopped (also highly unlikely)As I said, your credibility is getting pretty stretched here, mate (and that has nothing to do with your sexuality). Obtained quest cape and base 92 before obtaining any 99s! Currently finishing out my 99s with the (long-distant) goal of comp cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwreeTak Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Just some good to know information about the author of this thread, and since this whole troll discussion is blossoming within this thread anyway: I am not anti-gay by the way, just putting that in. You to me just became a whole lot less trustworthy though. If you really are interested in making RS better for gay people I don't think you would lie about who you are in game. that is not me what the hell Well, that is rather obvious. But it is who you say you are by your username - as well as in RSN and RSN in OSRS. So; Who are you? i am grooviestdog but i never said that, i havent been logged in for the last 4 hours online Observe1st is what I have been told is your real username. If you wish to support gay rights, why not just create an account on here that is linked to that one (by stating it as your RSN) and promote a gay event through that one? It should make people recognize you easier and the discussion can also continue in-game. I really fail to see any other reason to why you are acting like you are right now unless you really are trolling. If that is what you are doing that is just horrible. The gay community really deserves some discussion and to be brought up "in the spotlight" in the gaming world. But to do it in this way is totally wrong. Add me if you so wish: SwreeTak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy1 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it.I think I meant to come across more as it's not appropriate to ask them in game whether they'd like to marry the prince or princess directly for example, not that exposing them to it was inappropriate. Like people shouldn't be forced to give that kind of information to continue a quest whatever their age Ehh... If the players understood the separation between the player and their character/avatar/whatever, then it's fine; you're not telling your sexuality, just your avatars, which may be different than yours. You wouldn't even be giving your sexuality, just choosing who to go with in this case, and that decision could be influenced by a number of things apart from gender and sexuality. But that's definitely more borderline. That line of reasoning does make more sense than what I thought you (and others) were saying; thanks for clarifying. that's what i was trying to get over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy1 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Just some good to know information about the author of this thread, and since this whole troll discussion is blossoming within this thread anyway: I am not anti-gay by the way, just putting that in. You to me just became a whole lot less trustworthy though. If you really are interested in making RS better for gay people I don't think you would lie about who you are in game. that is not me what the hell Well, that is rather obvious. But it is who you say you are by your username - as well as in RSN and RSN in OSRS. So; Who are you? i am grooviestdog but i never said that, i havent been logged in for the last 4 hours online Observe1st is what I have been told is your real username. If you wish to support gay rights, why not just create an account on here that is linked to that one (by stating it as your RSN) and promote a gay event through that one? It should make people recognize you easier and the discussion can also continue in-game. I really fail to see any other reason to why you are acting like you are right now unless you really are trolling. If that is what you are doing that is just horrible. The gay community really deserves some discussion and to be brought up "in the spotlight" in the gaming world. But to do it in this way is totally wrong. i have no idea what you are talking about i know what my rsn name is and i am not online at the moment but i will be logging on in a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnitec Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it.I think I meant to come across more as it's not appropriate to ask them in game whether they'd like to marry the prince or princess directly for example, not that exposing them to it was inappropriate. Like people shouldn't be forced to give that kind of information to continue a quest whatever their age Ehh... If the players understood the separation between the player and their character/avatar/whatever, then it's fine; you're not telling your sexuality, just your avatars, which may be different than yours. You wouldn't even be giving your sexuality, just choosing who to go with in this case, and that decision could be influenced by a number of things apart from gender and sexuality. But that's definitely more borderline. That line of reasoning does make more sense than what I thought you (and others) were saying; thanks for clarifying. I agree, I don't view my character as me but a seperate entity, it's just an avatar to me. Some people do play as if it's themselves though so they may think they were being asked that, I don't see the need to appease some to potentially upset others in that particular case on the quest :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy1 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 On the subject of this not being appropriate for a kid's game: I disagree. We involve heterosexual romance in kids media alllllll the time; changing the genders of the people involved doesn't suddenly make it inappropriate for kids. I still totally think OP's suggestions are unnecessary for Runescape; I just have to disagree with that particular line of reasoning against it.I think I meant to come across more as it's not appropriate to ask them in game whether they'd like to marry the prince or princess directly for example, not that exposing them to it was inappropriate. Like people shouldn't be forced to give that kind of information to continue a quest whatever their age Ehh... If the players understood the separation between the player and their character/avatar/whatever, then it's fine; you're not telling your sexuality, just your avatars, which may be different than yours. You wouldn't even be giving your sexuality, just choosing who to go with in this case, and that decision could be influenced by a number of things apart from gender and sexuality. But that's definitely more borderline. That line of reasoning does make more sense than what I thought you (and others) were saying; thanks for clarifying. I agree, I don't view my character as me but a seperate entity, it's just an avatar to me. Some people do play as if it's themselves though so they may think they were being asked that, I don't see the need to appease some to potentially upset others in that particular case on the quest :D i view my charecter as me in a way and modeled it close to how i look but it is a fantasy and an escape really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I would like to thank everyone who was diligent in keeping their posts respectful and as non-inflammatory as possible, which has been pretty much everyone who posted on this thread. I want to be perfectly clear that tip.it has absolutely no problems with anyone on the basis of ethnicity, gender, orientation, or religion, and we welcome such discussions, with some provisions on the appropriate boards for some topics as outlined in our rules. What we will not abide are people using straw man arguments such as misconstruing disagreement with a personal idea as an attack on someone's ethnicity/gender/orientation/religion. We will also not abide anyone who uses sock puppets in a debate for any reason, be it to lend support for their own side, or to provoke the other side into being hostile. Lastly, we will not stand for people impersonating another user's account name in RuneScape, and then coming onto our forums and attempting to troll our community with that name. I will also mention that among all the pending moderation actions to be taken against various account, the OP's name will be force changed as the actual owner of that name wishes to make an account here with their own name. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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