Yoko Kurama Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 With the vitalis pet, specifically, it does reward skill to some extent. After all, you'll only get a Vitalis if you get drops at Vorago, which means you have to have a good DPS rotation or be a good tank. Except it doesn't. On my own team, we have a particular person who is the best DPSer out of us all, on most days. We happened to get a Vitalis pet, but for some reason it went to another DPS'er who clearly got less (and admitted to this) XP than the best DPS'er, wasn't basing, hadn't Voked, and it wasn't Scop. We often joke on our team how our best DPS'er got sniped. The fact of the matter is that drop rate for Vitalis is so ridiculously low, that you could win 99.9% of the drops for your roll, but the one time you don't get a drop, or a particular phase, that could be the one time the Vitalis drops and it goes to someone else. After all, no one gets drops 100% of the time. And there are countless stories of this. People who have consistently been doing Rago since it came out and obviously know the roles and how to perform them excellently, practically in the thousands of kills, have no Vitalis, saw maybe one, and it went to someone else. Then there are other people, who did a minimal number of kills at most, have poor Vorago experience and kills, but happened to get it by pure fluke. P5 random base drop. Btw, scop p3 base drop isn't random... IIRC, and I could be wrong, but I believe it was P3 or P2 (most likely P2). The only reason I mentioned Scop is to say that most teams have an understanding that the base tank gets P3 on Scop Week (by face trick, though Bomb also has a chance of getting the drop since bomb tank drops buff update). But it wasn't Scop Week, so it wasn't like the DPS'er who got it accidentally or purposefully stole the Base's drop (which would explain why he got the drop despite not having the most DPS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 after bring him down vorago can force tank the dps who does the most damage during that. it's possible that the base didn't voke back after that. best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Mod Osbourne confirmed it, its why when you re-enter boss battles for example the npcs aren't like oh you again. It's like a little time loop do over, which does make a lot more sense once you factor in death taking you to the last hub you visited now.I think Mod Osbourne forgot about Nomad saying something to the extent of "the would-be assassin returns!" if you face him again after dying. Now they've change it to where the drop rate merely slashes in half once the threshold is reached. So, you start at 1/5K, at 5K kills if you don't get the pet, it becomes 1/2,500, and if at 2,500 more kills you still don't get it, it becomes 1/1,250, and so on. Basically it's a wild goose chase, and you might never get it or have to go to extreme lengths to get it.Actually, with a little bit of math, it becomes a guaranteed drop at just under 10k kills. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoko Kurama Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Mod Osbourne confirmed it, its why when you re-enter boss battles for example the npcs aren't like oh you again. It's like a little time loop do over, which does make a lot more sense once you factor in death taking you to the last hub you visited now.I think Mod Osbourne forgot about Nomad saying something to the extent of "the would-be assassin returns!" if you face him again after dying. Now they've change it to where the drop rate merely slashes in half once the threshold is reached. So, you start at 1/5K, at 5K kills if you don't get the pet, it becomes 1/2,500, and if at 2,500 more kills you still don't get it, it becomes 1/1,250, and so on. Basically it's a wild goose chase, and you might never get it or have to go to extreme lengths to get it.Actually, with a little bit of math, it becomes a guaranteed drop at just under 10k kills. Well, hence why I said the bit at the end about 'extreme lengths'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Here is something that makes no sense. Half a shield is FAR rarer than a dragon platelegs.I get dragon platelegs from steel dragons every 150 drops or so. However I have been a member for almost a decade now and not once have I gotten half a shield from any monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkng198 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Here is something that makes no sense. Half a shield is FAR rarer than a dragon platelegs.I get dragon platelegs from steel dragons every 150 drops or so. However I have been a member for almost a decade now and not once have I gotten half a shield from any monster. http://forum.tip.it/topic/326181-does-half-of-a-shield-even-exist/ 1 [hide=Stats] [/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevjumba Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I've got a few for y'all to think about:When you cut a tree, they magically stack into logs neatly.Your backpack in general. Can hold 1 billion arrows yet just 28 bananas.Cash stack and 3 item protection. Because when you get killed for loot, the killer will leave three items and all the money in your wallet for you.Trees grow in seconds yet take hours during farming.Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Here is another one. In order to wear a rune platebody you are required to finish Dragon's Slayer, however all that's required to wear a dragon platebody is 60 defense. What? And it's not like rune platebody is some exclusive rare item. Anybody with 99 smithing can make it when they have five rune bars so this makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 That is true, although it does put a nice finishing touch on it for F2P I suppose. :P "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Here is another one. In order to wear a rune platebody you are required to finish Dragon's Slayer, however all that's required to wear a dragon platebody is 60 defense. What? And it's not like rune platebody is some exclusive rare item. Anybody with 99 smithing can make it when they have five rune bars so this makes no sense.It was an exclusive rare item when it was released (except for the fact that you can buy them in the shop after the quest), as there were not many people with 99 smithing. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Here is another one. In order to wear a rune platebody you are required to finish Dragon's Slayer, however all that's required to wear a dragon platebody is 60 defense. What? And it's not like rune platebody is some exclusive rare item. Anybody with 99 smithing can make it when they have five rune bars so this makes no sense.It was an exclusive rare item when it was released (except for the fact that you can buy them in the shop after the quest), as there were not many people with 99 smithing. Personally I think the requirement should be removed since this doesn't apply anymore. I mean heck, rune platebodies are extremely easy to get now. They are extremely common loot from hard clues and the crystal chest, so even if you don't have finished the quest, or 99 smithing, you will still be able to get these very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Here is another one. In order to wear a rune platebody you are required to finish Dragon's Slayer, however all that's required to wear a dragon platebody is 60 defense. What? And it's not like rune platebody is some exclusive rare item. Anybody with 99 smithing can make it when they have five rune bars so this makes no sense.It was an exclusive rare item when it was released (except for the fact that you can buy them in the shop after the quest), as there were not many people with 99 smithing. Personally I think the requirement should be removed since this doesn't apply anymore. I mean heck, rune platebodies are extremely easy to get now. They are extremely common loot from hard clues and the crystal chest, so even if you don't have finished the quest, or 99 smithing, you will still be able to get these very easily. But why remove the requirement as the quest is extremely easy. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 But why remove the requirement as the quest is extremely easy.Consistency? Crazy, I know, but still. Really, it's the F2P endgame. Makes sense with that in mind, just that they should probably work all three styles into it. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 But why remove the requirement as the quest is extremely easy. Consistency? Crazy, I know, but still. Really, it's the F2P endgame. Makes sense with that in mind, just that they should probably work all three styles into it.Ranged is worked into it as well (green dragonhide body), just not magic. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 You do actually need Dragon Slayer to wear Batwing robe top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 You do actually need Dragon Slayer to wear Batwing robe top.You do? I learn new stuff everyday. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 They might have removed the req from Green dragonhide body and put it on Blue dragonhide body instead too, not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 They might have removed the req from Green dragonhide body and put it on Blue dragonhide body instead too, not sure.Yes they did. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Really, it's the F2P endgame. Makes sense with that in mind, just that they should probably work all three styles into it. That is a good point, I still find it stupid though that nothing is required (asides from 60 defense) to wear a dragon platebody but a quest is required to wear a rune platebody. Wasn't a quest requirement for the herblore skill removed? I think that was a welcome change. But looking at the article on Dragon Slayer, without the rune platebody requirement there would be no reason to finish the dragon slayer quest since nobody cares about that maze that's also unlocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 ^Except for the fact that you cannot visit crandor without doing the quest, and you cannot finish 4 task sets (lumbridge, karamja, varrock, desert). You can also not start Heroes Quest which is required for Legends quest and Throne of Miscellania (so you cannot do MTK). Do I need to continue? :P http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 But don't any of you find it weird that a dragon platebody doesn't require anything asides from the defense level? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Put simply, it's a symbol I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Still makes sense for ironman though, as rune plate is a lot easier to get than a dragon plate (except from diango) :P http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Still makes sense for ironman though, as rune plate is a lot easier to get than a dragon plate (except from diango) :P Considering that all parts required are extremely rare drops from monsters not easy to kill, I think getting a dragon platebody without the grand exchange is nearly impossible. ^Except for the fact that you cannot visit crandor without doing the quest, and you cannot finish 4 task sets (lumbridge, karamja, varrock, desert). You can also not start Heroes Quest which is required for Legends quest and Throne of Miscellania (so you cannot do MTK). Do I need to continue? :POh of course, how could I forget that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Considering that all parts required are extremely rare drops from monsters not easy to kill, I think getting a dragon platebody without the grand exchange is nearly impossible.It's been done numerous times, and I'd assume we have more than a few people on the forum who have had several platebodies worth of shards. They're not that hard to kill once you know what you're doing :v I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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