essiw Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Runelabs ideas page has depressed me more than anything in RS in a long time and really is the definition of 'this is why we can't have nice things'. No one seems to have read or listened to anything related to what it was supposed to be about, or the guidelines, let alone that ideas needed to be for a 'medium sized piece of content. Instead it seems it is being treated as a rebadged forum where you can post whatever the hell you like , regardless of its usefullness. It's hard not to come away with the conclusion that the game is played entirely by 11 year olds based upon the posts.I know that this community and ones like Reddit tend to be a bit more obsessive than the average player, and a lot of us follow very closely everything Jagex announces. But I at least hoped those posting would have a vague awareness of what jagex has said is not viable , or not likely to ever happen. The amount of posts I have seen saying things along the line of 'my idea is that smithing should be reworked', or 'my idea is that minigames should be made so people play them again' as if they believe theyre the first ones to have come to such a genius revelation makes me fuming mad. Every one knows half of the problems being posted about in one line suggestions, the entire point of Runelabs is for people to suggest ways to fix the problems, not just point them out.My biggest worry currently is how much time is going to be wasted by Jagex staff moderating and monitoring Runelabs to the stage where a feasible idea can be picked, not to mention with this much community involvement how much extra time it will take to develop the content. I think the man hours it will have taken to secure each release will probably be 2-3 times more than a typical update, I dont know about other people, but I would rather have 2-3 normal updates updates than one that was 'designed by the players'.The game IS for 11 years old. I think u need to realise this. YOU are too old.Except you're required by Jagex to be 13 years of age to play.Such a short-sighted comment. Nobody is ever too old to play a videogame.You may play this under the age of 13 if one of the parents is watching you play :3 (or at least that was allowed in the past) http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helring Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Runelabs ideas page has depressed me more than anything in RS in a long time and really is the definition of 'this is why we can't have nice things'. No one seems to have read or listened to anything related to what it was supposed to be about, or the guidelines, let alone that ideas needed to be for a 'medium sized piece of content. Instead it seems it is being treated as a rebadged forum where you can post whatever the hell you like , regardless of its usefullness. It's hard not to come away with the conclusion that the game is played entirely by 11 year olds based upon the posts.I know that this community and ones like Reddit tend to be a bit more obsessive than the average player, and a lot of us follow very closely everything Jagex announces. But I at least hoped those posting would have a vague awareness of what jagex has said is not viable , or not likely to ever happen. The amount of posts I have seen saying things along the line of 'my idea is that smithing should be reworked', or 'my idea is that minigames should be made so people play them again' as if they believe theyre the first ones to have come to such a genius revelation makes me fuming mad. Every one knows half of the problems being posted about in one line suggestions, the entire point of Runelabs is for people to suggest ways to fix the problems, not just point them out.My biggest worry currently is how much time is going to be wasted by Jagex staff moderating and monitoring Runelabs to the stage where a feasible idea can be picked, not to mention with this much community involvement how much extra time it will take to develop the content. I think the man hours it will have taken to secure each release will probably be 2-3 times more than a typical update, I dont know about other people, but I would rather have 2-3 normal updates updates than one that was 'designed by the players'.The game IS for 11 years old. I think u need to realise this. YOU are too old.Except you're required by Jagex to be 13 years of age to play.Such a short-sighted comment. Nobody is ever too old to play a videogame.You may play this under the age of 13 if one of the parents is watching you play :3 (or at least that was allowed in the past) Or if you lie when you create your account. R.I.P. The olde nite. A legend is gone but not forgotten. a Faction Related Item Sink for Rune Labs. https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/a=13/c=VcG-Ir5Ijno/view-idea?idea=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I may be mistaken but I believe you are perfectly well allowed to play, you simply can't chat aside from the phrases delegated by QuickChat. On your 13th birthday, the game will allow you to chat normally. The reason why you can't chat has to deal with child privacy protection laws which somehow came up with the magic number of 13 for this issue. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I may be mistaken but I believe you are perfectly well allowed to play, you simply can't chat aside from the phrases delegated by QuickChat. On your 13th birthday, the game will allow you to chat normally. The reason why you can't chat has to deal with child privacy protection laws which somehow came up with the magic number of 13 for this issue.Ah true, but wasn't that a US law? I know that at least in the Netherlands we don't have such laws (or at least not at the age of 13). http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I may be mistaken but I believe you are perfectly well allowed to play, you simply can't chat aside from the phrases delegated by QuickChat. On your 13th birthday, the game will allow you to chat normally. The reason why you can't chat has to deal with child privacy protection laws which somehow came up with the magic number of 13 for this issue.Ah true, but wasn't that a US law? I know that at least in the Netherlands we don't have such laws (or at least not at the age of 13). I'm not sure to the extent of similar laws in other countries; however, my guess is that it applies to Jagex regardless, since they have servers operated in the U.S. With regards to internation scope of the law, Wikipedia says: This is an American law, however, the Federal Trade Commission has made it clear that the requirements of COPPA will apply to foreign-operated web sites if such sites "are directed to children in the U.S. or knowingly collect information from children in the U.S." Since the law is US federal, it's applicable only to websites that run: by websites under US jurisdictionby websites which servers are hosted in USby websites which headquarters are located in the US territory.by commercial websites.[24]However, the law caused huge international impact, so that even websites which are not either under US jurisdiction, or which servers or headquarters are not located into US, started blocking children under 13,[25] even giving up parental consent.[26] Staff of these websites explain their child blocking implementation by common sense of children - that they don't have enough common sense, or they can't make their own decisions. They compare the website accounts to documents like driver's license, National ID card (or a passport) etc. Also I forgot to mention: I think even if a child is under 13, with a parental consent form filled out and sent to Jagex, they can then chat freely. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 The Runelabs support feature is going live tomorrow from mod JD on reddit. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I see, we can now sort ideas by support total. The option to give a -1 would be cool :twisted: . Because some ideas are just that horrible... 1 "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 The fact that you need to log in for every support that you do turns me off of using it. Why can't Jagex just rework their website security to not require so many reauthorizations? 1 Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Relog every time? That's lame. Usually it leaves you logged in for half an hour for other things :/. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helring Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 The fact that you need to log in for every support that you do turns me off of using it. Why can't Jagex just rework their website security to not require so many reauthorizations? You don't need to relog in for every support, or at least I didn't. R.I.P. The olde nite. A legend is gone but not forgotten. a Faction Related Item Sink for Rune Labs. https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/a=13/c=VcG-Ir5Ijno/view-idea?idea=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin0001 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It'd be nice if they removed closed/in development idea from being listed since you can't support that idea anymore. e.g. https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/a=13/view-idea?idea=12262 that idea is closed, but it is at the top of the list if you order by supporters and are in the community category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I guess that way people can see it's popular and an explanation of why it can't be implemented. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helring Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It'd be nice if they removed closed/in development idea from being listed since you can't support that idea anymore. e.g. https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/a=13/view-idea?idea=12262 that idea is closed, but it is at the top of the list if you order by supporters and are in the community category. They're adding a filter tomorrow. The default will be to only show ideas that can be supported, but you can choose to show all. 1 R.I.P. The olde nite. A legend is gone but not forgotten. a Faction Related Item Sink for Rune Labs. https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/a=13/c=VcG-Ir5Ijno/view-idea?idea=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDexter Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/view-idea?idea=12726 This is the only thing I am supporting, the only other thing I liked (ROP) has been disqualified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 If that idea gets voted up enough, wouldn't it disprove itself, or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwreeTak Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/view-idea?idea=12726 This is the only thing I am supporting, the only other thing I liked (ROP) has been disqualified.I am not surprised that the suggestion to remove RuneLabs got 350 supports. It is a bit sad to see a system with such great potential get filled with so many spam posts and ideas that could at the best be described as impossible to ever implement. And then I didn't even mention these tiny patch note suggestions that are getting tons of support on a medium month...But that is enough complaining. I still believe this project, RuneLabs, has a lot of potential. Once the hype dies down we will see more serious suggestions emerging and getting supported. Finally I am honoured that you wished to support mine, The_Aviansie's and Armadyn's suggestion. It was kind of obvious that RoP wouldn't fit in a medium scope. Abbinah will take a lot of resources to create, there is no denying that. We, the group of aviansies behind this suggestion, believe that RoP would probably fit the best in at least a Large scope. Most probably XL or even XXL. 1 Add me if you so wish: SwreeTak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Well you can always re-submit next time there is a large scope of an update :). "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I am liking Runelabs so far. The top 3 projects look great to me. However they should just be done all three as I think all three together would become a medium project. I am also liking the fourth one (addy and rune dragons), which seems like a medium project to me? http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I actually supported that Addy/Rune dragon one. Given how they said that KK was a medium sized project (dungeon and everything), I expect they could make a medium sized project out of that too. HH is apparently also a medium project. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I actually supported that Addy/Rune dragon one. Given how they said that KK was a medium sized project (dungeon and everything), I expect they could make a medium sized project out of that too. HH is apparently also a medium project.Also they should have added an addy dragon long ago, as they have been even hinting to a dragon dragon for ages. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 And then a barrows dragon, third age dragon, dragon dragon (g)... I'd be game for addy dragons and rune dragons to be a daily/weekly boss... Addy a lower tier boss, runite a very strong one Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDexter Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I'd like to have addy and rune dragons as rewards for Dragonkin-related stuff, like Fossil Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 And then a barrows dragon, third age dragon, dragon dragon (g)... I'd be game for addy dragons and rune dragons to be a daily/weekly boss... Addy a lower tier boss, runite a very strong oneWhy barrows dragon and a (g) dragon? Those two do not really fit in the lore. The third age dragon would be a white dragon I suppose (for third age ranger armour). I also wonder if a crystal dragon would be logical? I think they should continue the trend with those dragons not being bosses, although that would be hard with the current level of the mith dragon. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajutze Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Dragon Dragon has been a joke for as far as a I can remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Just searched for it, seems to be a conspiracy theory of evil dave and oziach... not sure what to think of that :P http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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