HunterDexter Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 God, if Jagex were a space company, they would be able to send a working robot to the surface of Mars, then after 10 minutes decide to hit the selfdestruct button. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Even better: they literally made it even worse than the pre-DoD Darklight.That's right, the upgraded Darklight now is worse than the pre-upgrade Darklight.That's Jagex for you. 2 Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 200th Quest useful reward has no become an actual downgrade on the weapon. Everyone who already 'upgraded' their darklight has quite literally been screwed over - you've unlocked a permanent modification to the weapon that has made it worse than the original. The reward is now people too lazy/slow/not uber up to speed have a better weapon for not having 'upgraded' it. If they leave it like this I think we may see some riotting issues on a larger scale than we've seen in sometime. I mean you are actually being penalised for having completed content and there is no way to take it back and 'downgrade' to the better sword. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Double post, but this post Mod Rowley left in response to the 'fix' says it all in many ways: Just to restate again, this change was not made based on player feedback, but on our own analytic data, collected since the launch of 200th quest (i.e. 'whining' had nothing to do with it). Yup thats right in the thread asking for PLAYER FEEDBACK so that they did not make a stupid change defending the stupid change Mod Rowley has confirmed the change had NOTHING to do with player feedback. 2 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Just think of it as a handicap to level the playing field :unsure: . "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Well done, now Darklight never hits. >_> BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baileydafrog Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Double post, but this post Mod Rowley left in response to the 'fix' says it all in many ways: Just to restate again, this change was not made based on player feedback, but on our own analytic data, collected since the launch of 200th quest (i.e. 'whining' had nothing to do with it).Yup thats right in the thread asking for PLAYER FEEDBACK so that they did not make a stupid change defending the stupid change Mod Rowley has confirmed the change had NOTHING to do with player feedback. however daft the update, isn't that aimed at they felt they needed to do something, not that peoples complaining about it being op made them do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 That's not much comfort...now I have the image of presumptuous JMods saying "Well forgot player feedback, I think it needs a nerf..." "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baileydafrog Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 That's not much comfort...now I have the image of presumptuous JMods saying "Well forgot player feedback, I think it needs a nerf..."noooo as in before they asked for the feedback, then they proceeded to ask and ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 If they leave it like this I think we may see some riotting issues on a larger scale than we've seen in sometime. I mean you are actually being penalised for having completed content and there is no way to take it back and 'downgrade' to the better sword.I suppose refunds are out of the question, then? Not sure if I want to quest anymore if this is going to be the norm. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel555555 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 :boohoo: R.I.P darklight, we shall miss you and mourn the loss of never getting a weapon better then t90 in the forseable future. [spoiler=click you know you wanna]Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 T95 degrade to dust weapons on treasure hunter in the near future~~~ Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 time to unupdate the page about tormented demons i've tried to be respectful, but the next time they ask for anything, i kinda doubt they'll get anything besides several thousand images of giving the bird it was bad just knowing that they make simple mistakes often, but now we know it's because of a combination of willful ignorance stemming from pride versus being able to distinguish useful player input from the stuff they think they're better than, actual ignorance from lack of experience, and prioritizing monetary gain over even the most basic design principles which a child could point out to them in five minutes of playing their game, and spits on the legacy of the people who used to work for jagex if we don't act together to address this, they're basically going to just continue spinning that wheel and taking money from people dishonestly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Kozlov Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think things like this are a good thing. They give us a full and unadulterated glimpse at Jagex and the way they operate. Sometimes we lack perspective and forget how truly ridiculous and asinine they are as a company. Remember: they knew better than you, whether this actually true or not is irrelevant to them. Back after a 5 year TIF hiatus. Please don't mind me too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 well, it was more that i was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but then they just had to go and literally monetize goodwill their business now entirely runs on the concept that they will be forgiven for anything they do by people with enough money, or at least continue asking for money upfront that they [bleep]ing know they will never deliver on in the future because they don't have to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Kozlov Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Playing Runescape is like eating at an Applebee's. It's just good enough to get you to come back and never so bad that you won't go back. Every now and again it will give you diarrhea though. Oh and the waiters don't know how the food is made, can only give you a vague idea of when it will be ready, and have no idea what's going on in the back. Back after a 5 year TIF hiatus. Please don't mind me too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Kozlov Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Playing Runescape is like eating at an Applebee's. It's just good enough to get you to come back and never so bad that you won't go back. Every now and again it will give you diarrhea though. Oh and the waiters don't know how the food is made, can only give you a vague idea of when it will be ready, and have no idea what's going on in the back. runescape is like 4chan, its shit and has always been shit but its worse now than before definitely. Also everyone who started after me is new as hellIt's hard because it's hard to define why the game was so compelling. So it's difficult to explain why it's not now. It's just something you have to know through personal experience with the game. The only thing I can say definitively is that the game had a type of depth to it. Updates now don't. The only thing that has real depth is combat, which they focus on too much now. This would be okay except so many other companies do that better to them. So much combat focus to be completely outdone in that regard by Blizzard is a shame. Back after a 5 year TIF hiatus. Please don't mind me too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxpprod Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Double post, but this post Mod Rowley left in response to the 'fix' says it all in many ways: Just to restate again, this change was not made based on player feedback, but on our own analytic data, collected since the launch of 200th quest (i.e. 'whining' had nothing to do with it).Yup thats right in the thread asking for PLAYER FEEDBACK so that they did not make a stupid change defending the stupid change Mod Rowley has confirmed the change had NOTHING to do with player feedback. Jokes on you for thinking that player feedback matters #we'llpollitbutneverdoit [bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Kozlov Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Perhaps they poll feedback to gauge backlash on options they've already decided to go with? Back after a 5 year TIF hiatus. Please don't mind me too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 it's a cross between that and having plausible deniability when players inevitably choose a terrible option, such as half of elf city, on the basis of outright lies created by either party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Kozlov Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Imagine how cool it would've been if they had released each clan area once a week and the city truly looked like it was slowly growing. Could've still had it done before each release. But yes, what they do with their own incompetence is much more honest and much more horrifying. Lying means they know what they're saying isn't true, but it would imply they in some way knew what they were saying. Back after a 5 year TIF hiatus. Please don't mind me too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 There's only so much ignorance to be had before you're starting to just wish the things you're saying aren't horribly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Imagine how cool it would've been if they had released each clan area once a week and the city truly looked like it was slowly growing. Could've still had it done before each release.That actually would have been a splendid idea in terms of lore - it would probably entail a lot of logistics with the code to make it work though. 1 "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Kozlov Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yes, most likely. Though graphically it would've meant fraying the edges a bit. Then mending them. I don't know how much work it takes when something is completed to prep it for update. Back after a 5 year TIF hiatus. Please don't mind me too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yes, most likely. Though graphically it would've meant fraying the edges a bit. Then mending them. I don't know how much work it takes when something is completed to prep it for update.I mean if they really wanted, they could just put locked gates between the regions and remove them week by week, but that might just frustrate people wanting it all at once. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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