Ishamael Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 My first buy was a rapier, and I've almost obtained enough tokens for my offhand rapier. What should I go for next? I do mostly slayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The next thing to get would probably be chaotic crossbow and offhand, and then I suppose staff, if you're set on chaotics. At the moment there is an armadyl crossbow that can be paired with an off-hand ccb, but no off-hand Armadyl crossbow. However, a spoiler type image strongly hints that may change next week..for now, we're not sure. In any case unless you are doing a DG marathon over the weekend, you can cross that bridge when you get to it :lol:. Bear in mind there are other viable alternatives to chaotics in the other combat styles as well, like a royal crossbow (two-handed) and armadyl battlestaff or virtus wand and book for similar tier Range and Magic, if you have the patience (brandishing at QBD) or money (buying Armadyl battlestaff or preferably, virtus wand and book) as well. But if those aren't really your thing that's perfectly understandable, just thought I should mention it. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Staff before crossbows, because Royal Crossbow exists, you can use the staff to get the xbow forged if you haven't done so already. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishamael Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 So Chaotics are kind of obsolete now I imagine? I was going to get them because funds are kind of limited, and I don't do combat outside of slayer. Although, I do kind of want to get into PvM once I get overloads. Been a while since I've played. Kind of lost in all these weapons and armour choices :mellow: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I wouldn't quite say they are obselete, but between drygores being a relatively cheap tier 90 that tears through most things and so many other Ranged options, plus the tanking price of virtus wand and book, their uses are getting more and more niche. If someone has the time to dg for all those hours, they can probably make the money for the non-chaotic stuff with the same amount of time investment. You might want to reconsider combat for money though. If I'm not mistaken, Chaotic Spear is still the best in the game to go Corp with - that's one instance where they still rule the roost, for now anyway. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishamael Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 I wouldn't quite say they are obselete, but between drygores being a relatively cheap tier 90 that tears through most things and so many other Ranged options, plus the tanking price of virtus wand and book, their uses are getting more and more niche. If someone has the time to dg for all those hours, they can probably make the money for the non-chaotic stuff with the same amount of time investment. You might want to reconsider combat for money though. If I'm not mistaken, Chaotic Spear is still the best in the game to go Corp with - that's one instance where they still rule the roost, for now anyway. Well i figure I'll be getting 120DG anyways, so I may as well grind out the Chaotic items now. Same for Slayer. If I'm killing something that isn't giving me Slayer XP as well, I feel like I'm kind of wasting time. Besides, farming and slayer is pretty good money overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Alright, fair enough :). Also, have you been doing sinkholes? They are a D&D for Dungeoneering and give you tokens/experience as well, which can help you achieve more chaotics, faster :P. Regarding Slayer I guess you could also structure your prefer/block list to emphasize the moneymakers if you want or need more cash, but at the sacrifice of a bit of XP rates in Slayer. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishamael Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 I haven't done sinkholes at all yet. That's something I'm going to have to look into. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 It's better to buy tier 90 weapons nowadays. Drygore/ascension/seismic/noxious. Pick based on which are most affordable to you (currently maces/ascs/staff are cheapest option) BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Even picking the cheapest out of all those, it's still a solid 400M to drop. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Attuned crystal weapons don't take too long to get either, and they are, for the most part, better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 For t80s.. Royal bow costs 1mChaotic claws are only 200k tokens for a setAttuned Crystal staff is free, gp wise Though personally I would skip t80 melee and go right to drygores. They are cheap. Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Dash Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 For t80s.. Royal bow costs 1mChaotic claws are only 200k tokens for a setAttuned Crystal staff is free, gp wise Though personally I would skip t80 melee and go right to drygores. They are cheap. Royal Crossbow is <400kChaotic Claws or Chaotic Spear (if you think you will make the jump to drygores soon, spear > claws)Attuned Crystal Staff (free) > Virtus Wand/Book (17m) > Armadyl Battlestaff (10m) “I had a feeling we weren’t coming back from this fight when it began.”“Do you have any regrets?”“I don’t. It seems surprising, I know, but I wouldn’t change a thing. This is how it was meant to be.”“Huh, you never really notice how lovely the day is until you realize you’ll never see it again.”“Mmmhmm.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishamael Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Yeah, I was checking prices today and things aren't too expensive. It's just that I currently have about 2m cash with another 10m in items that I will be selling (farmed herbs, mtk stuff). Don't have too much to play with. So would claws be better than dual wielding rapiers? All I care about is getting some more DPS for slayer right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Dash Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Claws are better because they are only 200k tokens while rapiers are 300k tokens. “I had a feeling we weren’t coming back from this fight when it began.”“Do you have any regrets?”“I don’t. It seems surprising, I know, but I wouldn’t change a thing. This is how it was meant to be.”“Huh, you never really notice how lovely the day is until you realize you’ll never see it again.”“Mmmhmm.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 And claws are made at 100%, rather than bought at 20% for all other chaotic weapons. But, personally, I would get the DG diaries done (if you have not done so) before spending the tokens on weapons. You can get a refund by resetting the ring anyway, but the DG diaries really help with DG I almost completely skipped chaotic weapons because by the time I was in a position to get them (I did not DG an awful lot until EoC came out), there were already tradeable versions available. Due to the number of methods to get DG tokens vs GP (3 vs much much more than 3), I placed extremely high personal value on DG tokens. I had only spent tokens on Mainhand Chaotic Claw because at the time, I could not afford Drygores. I have destroyed it since because I could not afford the bank space to keep it. I made Royal Crossbow as a substitute for Chaotic Crossbows (with Drygores as the weapon I used to hunt QBD), I used Virtus Wand and book for Magic (dual wield were better than staves at the same level due to concentrated blast, now it's the other way round, though the difference is now very small). I am one of the few people who would prefer to pay 200m for a set of weapons than to pay 200k dg tokens to buy similar weapon. If you are looking into alternatives of t80 weapons, may I suggest doing Player-Owned Ports for T85 weapons. However PoP takes a LONG time to get to the stage to make the weapons (starting from scratch, it'll take a couple of months to just get to the zone you can get the weapon components), but the time spent doing actual ports is quite small. PoP offers T85 dual wield weapons for all 3 styles. If you do go the PoP route, my advice: do not skip any scrolls, do them, no matter the success chances (anything higher than 60% is good). 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumntempest Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Spear first, because spear will be quite useful later on for corp, frosts, general slay, and even future pvp (prayer smashing) and since they'll likely be buffing the 2h melee abilities soon. (but since you have rapiers, it may not be ideally your next chaotic)Crossbows should be considered too if you dont have 85/83(b) herb, but with shield abilities and a few tries you should get a royal crossbowAlso consider getting the shard to make the amulets if you dont already have them already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishamael Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 I do not have the amulets yet. I was looking at that today. Which amulets are worth getting? I also don't have bone crusher yet :blink: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Demon horn is definitely worth getting. What Autumn is referring to is (I think?) the blood necklace shard, which can be used for a powered-up amulet of fury or the Arcane Stream/Brawler Knockout/Farsight Blood necklaces. It does cost over 10 million though. Also, it degrades. A Saradomin whisper/murmur/hiss might be a cheaper and more affordable option for the time being. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumntempest Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Demon horn is definitely worth getting. What Autumn is referring to is (I think?) the blood necklace shard, which can be used for a powered-up amulet of fury or the Arcane Stream/Brawler Knockout/Farsight Blood necklaces. It does cost over 10 million though. Also, it degrades. A Saradomin whisper/murmur/hiss might be a cheaper and more affordable option for the time being.Initial cost is 10m but afterwards, its about 500k per 20 hours of use.For the extra dps and regular healing, I'd say it'd be part of any high leveled slayer's arsenal.Demon horn is worth it too if you have the prayer level( you're curently 9 levels away on prayer, 3 on dung) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumntempest Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I personally prefer brought weapons over the ones that are "free" (I dont see them as free cuz).For example you buy a virtus wand and book. lets say that's 18m and the free alternatives are chaotic staff and the attunned crystal staff.for the virtus weapon set after you're done with them, you can sell them back, but what of the chaotic and crystal staff?For the chaotic staff you use 200k tokens. Once you're done with it, you might decide to destroy it, and in the process you lose approximately half of its value. With an attunned crystal staff, you cant even forcibly refund its value. And you might move up the tiers pretty fast too, after all repairs on the staff of darkness are even cheaper than that of the level 80 weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishamael Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 I personally prefer brought weapons over the ones that are "free" (I dont see them as free cuz).For example you buy a virtus wand and book. lets say that's 18m and the free alternatives are chaotic staff and the attunned crystal staff.for the virtus weapon set after you're done with them, you can sell them back, but what of the chaotic and crystal staff?For the chaotic staff you use 200k tokens. Once you're done with it, you might decide to destroy it, and in the process you lose approximately half of its value. With an attunned crystal staff, you cant even forcibly refund its value. And you might move up the tiers pretty fast too, after all repairs on the staff of darkness are even cheaper than that of the level 80 weapons.Good point, but item prices are pretty volatile. I've "lost" a lot of money just in leaving for a year due to all of my equipment dropping drastically (veracs, whip, etc). That doesn't really bother me however. Right now I'm 10k tokens off my offhand rapier and after that I'm slaying/farming my way to drygores/virtus/etc. Got to start somewhere right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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