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This was an unexpected event, both in oldschool and rs3... wouldn't anyone say?

 

Also Planet Hell :)


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Lesson learned: if you exploit major game bugs and profit millions at the detriment of others, it's okay, you're only gonna be officially recognized by Jagex and be given your own event in-game.

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Lesson learned: if you exploit major game bugs and profit millions at the detriment of others, it's okay, you're only gonna be officially recognized by Jagex and be given your own event in-game.

 

You should go exploit some major bugs then if that's how it works :P


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Remember when people made a fake Varrock Massacre with the Easter hand cannons and Rock cakes/Heal other?

It caused so much panic that JMods had to personally tell them to stop.

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This was very unexpected, but very awesome by Jagex. Unlike most other game companies that rather pretend that nothing ever happened, Jagex realizes that the Falador Massacre was a major part of RuneScape history and embraces it. It might not have been the most greatest part of RuneScape's long history, so you gotta realize it's not easy to come out of the closet for this. Heck, even some real life nations do not!

 

For example, I'll bring up Japan since I'm actually half-Japanese myself. Some schools in Japan don't even teach about Japan's notorious war crimes in WW2 in which China and other countries whom still hold grudges! Schools in Japan are doing what most other game companies would do... pretend that it never happened, because it's much easier to swallow this pill.

 

Proof: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21226068

 

Is that right? Is that how history should be taught? I don't believe it should, so I applaud Jagex for this :).


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This was very unexpected, but very awesome by Jagex. Unlike most other game companies that rather pretend that nothing ever happened, Jagex realizes that the Falador Massacre was a major part of RuneScape history and embraces it. It might not have been the most greatest part of RuneScape's long history, so you gotta realize it's not easy to come out of the closet for this. Heck, even some real life nations do not!

 

For example, I'll bring up Japan since I'm actually half-Japanese myself. Some schools in Japan don't even teach about Japan's notorious war crimes in WW2 in which China and other countries whom still hold grudges! Schools in Japan are doing what most other game companies would do... pretend that it never happened, because it's much easier to swallow this pill.

 

Proof: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21226068

 

Is that right? Is that how history should be taught? I don't believe it should, so I applaud Jagex for this :).

 

A more recent issue is the Armenian cause. The Turkish government says there was no genocide, while a lot of other countries actually agrees that it was. Heck, even recently the German government acknowledged it officially.

 

This does get a bit off-topic now X"D.

 

I do agree that Jagex is doing the right approach with this.


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I'm pretty stoked to see Jagex accepting this is part of Runescape history and having a formal event about it. I'm looking to some PKin in Fally

 

 

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This was very unexpected, but very awesome by Jagex. Unlike most other game companies that rather pretend that nothing ever happened, Jagex realizes that the Falador Massacre was a major part of RuneScape history and embraces it.

Kinda like the Corrupted Blood incident in WoW that Blizz later re-made into an official event.

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Ironic perhaps, I was in Fally just a few days ago and saw a P-Mod urging caution about duel anywhere. I asked them if they would soon be yelling at everyone to "BANK YOUR STUFF!"  ;)

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2006 emote was already kind of a half ass attempt at recognition, no? :P


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Lesson learned: if you exploit major game bugs and profit millions at the detriment of others, it's okay, you're only gonna be officially recognized by Jagex and be given your own event in-game.

 

Major [well known] bugs are iconic to a games identity at a certain point.

 

If you don't believe me guess the game associated with the glitch

 

Corrupted blood plague

Falador massacre

Infinite Sword Glitch

Missingno

Superjump

etc.

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Lesson learned: if you exploit major game bugs and profit millions at the detriment of others, it's okay, you're only gonna be officially recognized by Jagex and be given your own event in-game.

 

Major [well known] bugs are iconic to a games identity at a certain point.

 

If you don't believe me guess the game associated with the glitch

 

Corrupted blood plague

Falador massacre

Infinite Sword Glitch

Missingno

Superjump

etc.

 

You can't compare Falador massacre to ISG or Missingno there.

The first was literally a player who broke major game rules, killing many innocent players who wouldn't have lost their stuff otherwise, and some of them may even have quit the game because of it. Then that player was banned, and rightfully so.

The latter two are just two relatively harmless glitches, as they will generally only ever affect the game and/or save file of the person playing the game. Those aren't MMOs with millions of players and established rules that get you suspended/banned if you break them.

 

If you want to give in-game recognition to certain players, give it to players who have achieved big. Not rule breakers.

 

They could easily have made a Falador Massacre memorial where you joined the special world, and a certain player at random was given the power to attack anyone without them retaliating. There you go, Falador Massacre memorial without giving in-game recognition + his own NPC to a rule breaker.

 

Heck, Zezima deserves an in-game memorial far more than Durial should have. And many others. The Old Nite, N0valyfe, remember them?

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Durial is a dead character not player. The Old nite is a dead player not character. So a memorial to the character makes sense in that context. Although I agree something like blizzards make a wish foundation memorials are much more professional.

 

And who cares about the damages of the glitch a decade later? Everyone involved has moved on and the perpetrator got banned, and the loss of a single party hat is nothing compared to what people made off various glitches used in scams and duels & in every popular MMO theres a major dupe every 6 months.

 

 

But the main thing about this glitch is how uniquely runescape it is. A glitch to kill people in safe zones is as much a runescape was as mystical as the hidden pokemon missingno was back when we were kids.

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If you don't believe me guess the game associated with the glitch

Corrupted blood plague -World of Warcraft

Falador massacre - Some stupid Sailing game

Infinite Sword Glitch - Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Missingno - Pokèmon Red & Blue

Supe-jump - Super Smash Bros?

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Durial is a dead character not player. The Old nite is a dead player not character. So a memorial to the character makes sense in that context. Although I agree something like blizzards make a wish foundation memorials are much more professional.

 

And who cares about the damages of the glitch a decade later? Everyone involved has moved on and the perpetrator got banned, and the loss of a single party hat is nothing compared to what people made off various glitches used in scams and duels & in every popular MMO theres a major dupe every 6 months.

 

 

But the main thing about this glitch is how uniquely runescape it is. A glitch to kill people in safe zones is as much a runescape was as mystical as the hidden pokemon missingno was back when we were kids.

So because Durial was banned, it's suddenly ok to glorify and give a rule breaker his own in-game NPC... Got it.

And because The Old Nite died, it means... what, exactly?

 

I don't disagree about the rest, but as I've already said, there are ways to make a Falador Massacre memorial just fine without literally glorifying the rule breaker and giving him his own in-game NPC.

Yeah it's a cool thing about Runescape's history, but it doesn't mean we have to go out of our way to go, hey, you broke a major game rule which is totally not okay, but we're going to give you your own in-game NPC.

 

...

 

Just make a Falador Massacre memorial where it's anyone who becomes the killer... they don't need to become Durial.

And then no-one cares about Cursed You, who was the one to cause the glitch to happen to begin with.

 

What does this say about the game's integrity when they are at the point where they literally reward a rule breaker by giving him even more fame along with his own in-game NPC?

Many more people deserve an in-game NPC far more than any rule breaker would. I don't care how important you think the glitch was to the game's history, they are rule breakers and should not receive such recognition.

 

 

Of all these other glitches you mentioned, Falador Massacre was the only one which was in a MMO where one player in particular did some major rule-breaking and got banned. It is also the only one along with Corrupted blood plague to have been officially acknowledged by the game's makers.

The rest are completely irrelevant. Just because Missingno and ISG are famous glitches doesn't suddenly mean that, oh yeah, it's totally okay that we would reward a rulebreaker, in a MMO, which has clear "no bug abuse" rules written, with his own in-game NPC now.

Corrupted blood was the only one to have also been in an MMO, and to have also killed a lot of players during that week. But there wasn't one or a few specific bug abusers that got on the top and became infamous, it was just a thing that spread and no-one knew who it came from. No rule breakers are being glorified by Blizzard from them re-enacting it as a harmless fun thing years later for the release of WotLK (and let me tell you, the Zombie plague fits completely within the atmosphere of WotLK, so it even made sense rather than just being some event made just for the sake of memorial.)

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It was basically a filler content for a filler week. I can understand why some people are upset about them essentially celebrating this type of thing, but I don't personally have strong feelings on the matter, one way or another. I didn't even bother visiting the place.

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I don't think this event has done anything to glorify or make Durial famous. Rather, it's simplified and reduced him to being a bogeyman, known only for what happened in Falador a decade ago. Instead of being an adored player at the top of the highscores, a well known PvM master, or a ridiculously rich merchant, he's simply someone who ruined the afterglow of construction and stole a partyhat along the way. Not exactly something you'd aspire to be.

 

This event is really to celebrate the impact it had on our collective psyche. Durial is secondary. In fact, he's not some lucid, murderous entity who's recommitting his infamous act, he's simply been turned into a pinata for the sake of this event.

 

I can understand why people feel that this attention is undeserved. When Woox did his solo nex kills within a week or two of release, Jagex made posts on the front page/social media to celebrate what most saw as bug abuse. Perhaps they feel that Durial is similarly being given undue attention in this event too, but it should be recognised that the primary focus of this event isn't even Durial himself.

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Personally I think the one failing of this event in terms of glorifying cheating and what have you was the inclusion of Durial.

 

You could've had the pking massacre and some giant spawn monster periodically to remember the events without making it "Durials spirit" and a giant Durial which does in some ways validate what he did.


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Personally I think the one failing of this event in terms of glorifying cheating and what have you was the inclusion of Durial.

 

You could've had the pking massacre and some giant spawn monster periodically to remember the events without making it "Durials spirit" and a giant Durial which does in some ways validate what he did.

 

That'd be silly; it was a player killing everyone, not TzTok-Jad. That's part of what made it such a memorable event. Having an actual player running around killing everyone was way spookier and more exciting than an NPC would've been


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It was an alright event.  I enjoyed the reference to it and also heard of the house party event as well, which were pretty good touches to add to it.  However, since I work during the day, I didn't really get to see the whole event unfold; I just arrived in Falador where everybody was fighting each other.

 

That was the major bummer, but I still appreciate the gesture of it all.  Made me laugh when I walked into Falador and got the message to bank my items, even though I was on World 2.

 

As for those who argue that it glorifies a rule breaker and celebrates cheating:  no, not really.  It's more about a bit of fun than rulebreaking, and it was done in a controlled (enough) environment.  To be fair, the whole "Bank your items" statement is memetic at this point, and newer players have only really heard of Durial321 through whispers and rumors.  Besides, it demonstrates that Jagex has the capability of turning a city into a PvP zone for future events, which seems valuable.

 

It'd be tough for Jagex to move forward as a company if they couldn't acknowledge some of their biggest moments in history - good or bad - in whichever form they felt appropriate.


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Personally I think the one failing of this event in terms of glorifying cheating and what have you was the inclusion of Durial.

 

You could've had the pking massacre and some giant spawn monster periodically to remember the events without making it "Durials spirit" and a giant Durial which does in some ways validate what he did.

 

That'd be silly; it was a player killing everyone, not TzTok-Jad. That's part of what made it such a memorable event. Having an actual player running around killing everyone was way spookier and more exciting than an NPC would've been

 

 

But the "spirit" wasn't anything other than a mechanic to turn a special form of pvp on and the giant durial was in fact an npc aka a monster.

 

You could've used a player-style npc without it being specifically Durial. They have a bunch of them from all manner of cut scenes and what not already. Heck you could ever of made it LOOK like Durial without expressly naming it as such.

 

I'm not suggesting the even should've been fundamentally different, just sans Durial specific references ie capture the memory of the event and what happened without glorifying the name of a specific rule breaking bug abuser.


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