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I've just returned to Runescape after a year or so, been studying. There's quite a few new things and then there's old things I'm getting around to that I didn't before. So I've come to Tip.it to look things up, because it's the place I've always come to since I started way back when .. (I have a 15 yr vet cape). I'm finding that not many or any of the new things are on here, and the changes to the old things aren't either.

I'm wondering, have the usual updating people of the site gone on long service leave, or annual leave or some other holidays? If so, when will they be back?

Things I've tried looking up:

  • Urns
  • new urns such as Divination and Farming,
  • and why aren't my infernal urns picking up ashes from demons, and why can't I scatter ashes from demons?
  • Why aren't my new urns initiating properly? When one fills up, the stuff that was filling it up before isn't filling up the new one, especially if I don't have a new one in my inventory ready to take over. The new one in my bank won't start filling up until I'm doing something with higher points/fill rate/percentage
  • What is New Varrock? It's not on the in-game map
  • What are these 'fragments' I keep being told I've gained: Divination, Shark, Gemstone Golem, Camouflage
  • And what are these Memory Strands?
  • Catherby is all re-arranged!
  • Where else besides Lumbridge Swamp and near Eagle Peak are the new bank chests? And why are they there?
  • And I was brewing in the ghost place, Plasmyre whatsisface place, and had my ghostspeak amulet on so decided to ask the ghost assistant for some ale yeast. He said that'll be 5 ectotokens, I said OK and even though I didn't have any on me, payment was made. Maybe I had some in the bank he used. But I couldn't find them in my bank after, to see if I had any more. I guess they were all spent because the next time I was there he said I can't afford it, or don't have enough ectotokens or whatever. Pretty sure I remember they were in the bank when I had them. Are they now supposed to show up in my 'currency pouch' or something?
  • I remembered that when I was playing a year or two ago, one of my goals was to do the monkey madness quest so that I could buy and wear a dragon plate top thingy armour. That was one of the first quests I went to go and finished upon returning. When I proudly then went to the exchange  to buy it, I then found that it was the dragon schimitar that was usable after doing Monkey Madness. Did that change? Or was it that all along?

And I'm frustrated that the monsters I used to go and fight for this or that resource, aren't dropping that resource very often anymore. I have found a few alternatives on this site. So I guess the monsters and their drops have been updated, but I've found no mention of the other stuff.

I tried looking up other sites but this is the one that I trust. I don't feel comfortable going somewhere else.


Thanks for your time.







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Hi BobbieK! Sorry to hear about your frustrations. To make a long story short, we have a very finite amount of time/resources these days and we do what we can, but unfortunately there are times when content and updates can pile up faster than we can get to it. For example, these days I'm more into learning more bosses so I can eventually write up guides for them. I will endeavor to help you out with some of your questions as I can though.


With regard to urns, I believe they should be there and up-to-date. For example, a Divination urn or Farming urn should pop up under items if you do a search. I am not sure about your infernal urns - did you use a rune to activate them? Scattering ashes in your inventory does not fill infernal urns - the only way to fill them up is when you have the urns in your inventory as you kill creatures that drop them. And finally, to start filling a new urn when the old one is finished, the new one must be in your inventory. Urns in the bank can't fill up from skilling.


New Varrock is an area in which a quest, Dimension of Disaster, and an affiliated task set take place. You can see our quest guide and New Varrock task guide for more information.


The fragments can be constructed using Invention to make outfits that generally provide benefits in training that particular skill. For example, the shark suit (put together from three shark outfits) will give a chance to get double fish for catches, and the option of auto-consuming your fish. Here's one piece, for example.


Memory shards are used for a distraction and diversion "Memorial to Guthix," from which you can get some passive buffs for Divination and other things. Click on your memory strands in your currency pouch to teleport to Orla and she can explain/take you through the tutorial.


There's a bank chest at Lumbridge combat academy but you probably knew about that already. I am not sure if there are others that they added recently, but usually it's for convenience if it's near a new activity for which you need to bank.


Ecto-tokens now reside in your currency pouch, yes. I'm not sure if any banked tokens were automatically placed there or not.



As far as I know, the dragon platebody was always tied to Dragon Slayer rather than Monkey Madness, along with the rune platebody. The dragon chainbody doesn't have any quest requirements.


What resources are you trying to get? Updating the drops for every monster would be a mammoth undertaking, but maybe I can suggest a few that would be helpful.

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I'm sorry that I didn't write my explanation of what is going on with my urns well enough.

Infernal urns that I had already made a lot of before I took my break a year or so ago, were complete with the activating rune on them. I took the half used one and some spare one's to fight lesser  demons, as I had done often and many times before. The half used one didn't fill up. The ashes remained on the ground. I was then surprised that when I picked up the ashes manually, there was not an option to scatter them, because they were now just normal white ashes, they used to be a greenish yellow when I last played a couple of years ago, and the infernal urn used to collect them without me having to do anything except carry the urn in my inventory. I didn't leave it in the bank. So the ashes of lesser demons have changed. Perhaps the change is that infernal urns don't pick up lesser demon ashes? Perhaps the lower level prayer urn does?

The next urn confusion I had was when I took my half used cooking urn from the past to go do some cooking, but didn't bring a spare. It started filling up the rest of the way from a small task of chopping up stuff into bowls, I think it was onions, or could have been mushrooms, either way I was surprised because I vaguely didn't remember that that task did any urn filling in the past. The urn filled up. So my next click on the bank after teleporting that urn, I took out a new urn, closed the bank interface and continued with the same task. The new urn (complete with rune activation - you can tell because it is coloured) did not initiate and did not start filling up until my next inventory full of cooking. The same thing happened with fishing and mining, if I didn't bring a spare, the next urn (withdrawn and held in my inventory) would not start filling up until the next inventory-full of activity after that. The nice thing I did find though is that now spare urns get squeezed into the same inventory space, numbered. They used to be all separate, so if you took a couple of spare unused urns, that would take up 3 spaces including the used one.

Did I mention that I have a 15 year vet cape? I do know that urns don't fill up in the bank. I have been playing for some time.

So I think there is a change in that if you don't have a spare urn with you, the next one won't fill up until the next round after that? And that infernal urns don't pick up lesser demon ashes, and lesser demon ashes have changed to white normal ashes that can't be scattered manually either. Ironic though that the tiny, much lower level imps' ashes can be collected by an urn or scattered.

Thank you for the links to the new types of urns. I didn't know the information existed because it is not in the table of urns. I have however, found some information on them by looking through the in-game interface when making pottery.


I tried doing an items search for divination fragments, and shark fragments and the other two I mentioned and they didn't turn up in the tip.it database. The game didn't have any obvious info on them either. I tried the search engine on the top right of the tip.it screen, but that didn't return anything either. Thank you for your information on that.


One of the resources I went to get was eye of newt, I know you can just buy crates of them .. and unicorn horns/dust. My favourite place for getting all of those types of herblore things was the caves in lumbridge swamp - bugs, crawlers and slime. But when I went there, the new frequencies of those drops (lack of) were very disappointing. I went to the bestiary database and did an advanced search with drops and went through the whole list trying all of them that I am of level to, until I found that the catapo .. whatsisface green thing in edeville stronghold of whatsisface was the best one for eye of newt. No joy on unicorn horn/dust though, not in lumbridge swamp, hardly any anyway, so I then went into the forest and actually killed unicorns, which you might think is silly but I don't like doing that, cos they're traditionally nice creatures - one of my all time favourite movies is Legend with Mia Farrow and a very young, hot Tom Cruise, I saw it at the movies when it first came out when I was a teen.


Another annoying thing I've found is that monster drops of gems don't get transported with Sign of the Porter anymore. Yes I am picking them up. No joy. Eye of newt picked up from a monster drop for example is getting transported, which proves that I am picking it up correctly. Only gems gotten while mining are getting transported.

The other sort of change I'm finding, with gems, is that emeralds are less frequent, in mining, than rubies and diamonds, when it used to be more. Have they become more valuable than rubies and diamonds?


I don't remember the rune plate body requiring a quest to wear it. I have done Dragon Slayer but I'm pretty sure I've had my rune plate body since before that. I do remember though that when I reached the stats required to wear the dragon platebody, I went to buy one and it said I needed the Monkey Madness to wear it, or perhaps even buy it. Which started my whole process of getting to Monkey Madness in the past. I don't know why a scimitar would have spurred me on to do Monkey Madness. Perhaps access to Ape Atoll, although I don't see anything special about that place I'd usually want.


Thank you for your time, Dragon Slayer.


Business and Logistics, in case you're wondering what I was studying, Diploma. And next year university for double major, Business and English/Creative Writing. I'll be 50 when I'm done.


BobbieK xx.

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Thanks for clarifying on urns. I think the problem is a bit of a bug on Jagex's end. When you have a runed urn in your inventory, it seems you need an empty inventory space, and otherwise it will not start to fill. The game needs an extra inventory space to "create" the partially filled urn before it can delete the runed one, and since there's no inventory space, it can't do so. I am fairly confident this is the issue because Jagex has had this sort of bug in other contexts. The best suggestion I can think of it to leave one inventory space open and that should resolve the issue. I'm not sure what's going on with fishing or mining, though.


Chopping onions, as well as a bunch of other miscellaneous small tasks, were given a nominal amount of xp in a patch at some point. Since it now awards xp, it will contribute to filling your urn, albeit very slowly.


Lesser demons still drop accursed ashes (I just checked) and they have the option to scatter. It seems likely that you have some sort of drop cleaner with you using up the ashes before you can get to them - for example, a demon horn necklace or one of its lower-tiered variants. These consume the ashes in exchange for prayer points, so there are no ashes left to be put in the urn.


I'll see about adding info on the fragments when I have a chance.


Catablepons do drop eyes of newt, and are probably your best bet at the moment. Sources for unicorn horn are more limited. Other than unicorns, a few monsters that drop them are unicows (if you have creature creation unlocked), Commander Zilyana and her minions, and celestial dragons.


I don't know about the frequency of gems. I suppose it's possible they adjusted rarity behind the scenes but from a general game knowledge point of view it seems unlikely to me. And yeah, signs of the porter don't work on gems. There is a gem bag available as a Dungeoneering reward to hold a large number of gems in one inventory space, which you might find useful.


As far as I know the rune platebody has always required Dragon Slayer to wear (though not buy). Here's the update post.


Hopefully that helps.

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Thank you for your reply! :)


I haven't got a necklace like that or any cleaner thingy. The necklace I wear for fighting is the amulet of glory. I was however, using the exquisite crossbow and the offhanded exquisite crossbow, but they are the weapons I was using for lesser demons in the past. There was nothing different about what I was wearing or using when I went to fight them upon my return.

When I went on a low slayer task, even though I'm not low, to get back into the swing of things, it was those fiery monsters near the cockatrices and I realised they were dropping accursed or infernal ashes whatever, so the next time I went to fight those, I took my half used accursed urn and it did pick them up. I'm wondering if perhaps either my half used urn had a bug from being dormant for so long, or if infernal urns no longer also pick up accursed ashes, only infernal, and the lower prayer urn picks up the accursed.

However, when I was fighting the lesser demons with it and it wasn't picking them up, I went and manually picked them up myself and they were named just 'ashes' and didn't have an option to scatter. These were the lesser demons in Taverly, outside the blue dragons' gate and across the bridge from the dwarfs. I will try them again with a freshly made infernal urn. Maybe the 'ashes' drops were one of those booby prize drops.


I've done the quest whichever one it was to access the gem mine in shilo village. As well as monster drops, perhaps besides cave slime, and regular mining, I have seen with the gem mine, that emeralds are less frequent than rubies and diamonds now. Maybe they have become more valuable because of their use with Sign of the Porter IV, which is easier to make, get the energy for and uses less of those, than the porter 5/ruby. Divination was fairly/kinda new last time I played. A couple of more years has probably been enough time for the preference to develop.


Fighting, if you can call it that, the cave bugs, crawlers and slime for eye of newt was cool because they're so low and I didn't need to bring food, and if I stuck to the bugs, no anti-poison either. So it's annoying now that the cata-green creatures are the better source, because I have to bring restore, and a bit of food, prayer potion to extend protection from magic, although they still affect me through the prayer, the little so and so's, I have to run around picking up my bolts, and they take longer to die. I guess it was good range practice.


Has this site been around as long as Runescape? Although my profile says I joined in 2012, I'm pretty sure I've been using it for way longer. All my memories of playing go hand in hand with my memories of using this site, so that'd mean since around 2000 or 2001.


Have an ingenious day.

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Glad to be of help, hope you have fun in all your adventures!


It's been around quite a while I think, possibly the oldest surviving site to date. There was one point at which the forums migrated and everyone had to make a new account. That was all before my time, though.

"Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art?






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