The Observer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Okay, so two days away until it's legalized in Canada. In Ontario they're having everything sold through an online store and it will be shipped to your door and private sellers can start their own businesses starting in April (?) of next year. The previous government's plan was to sell both online and through physical retailers. Lots of complications with law enforcement, etc... example: https://globalnews.ca/news/4529324/rcmp-cannabis-legalization-policy/ Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Can't wait til it happens in NJ and they tax the Jesus out of it. I'm glad we can have this thread now, since it was such a disaster 10 years ago Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 In general I think it's a good (or at least neutral thing). I'm not happy about the erosion of rights that came with the bill (arbitrary stop and breathalyze for alcohol now). Also it seems like the blood test the government is recommending isn't very consistent. Other than that, there are still some pretty silly restrictions on individual growth and sale, but at least there are some reasonable private options in Ontario now. It's tempting to "tax the Jesus out of it", but if you make taxes too high, people don't leave the black market, which stops one of the big advantages of legalizing in the first place. good tax policy isn't easy! "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Agreed, but I'm sure you're aware that the US could use the extra cash flow. The only reason why we aren't all living in Hoover Houses is because we haven't accepted that our net worth is negative. Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesset Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I'm going to Canada on vacation next year with a moderate pot head, and he really wants us to smoke while we're up there, so I'm waiting to see what the consensus is on Americans smoking while in Canada (both in Canada's opinion and in America's) My skin is finally getting softI'll scrub until the damn thing comes off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 My parents visited Colorado not that long ago and they smoked. I'm pretty sure practically everyone is chill with it at this point, except mormons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 I'm going to Canada on vacation next year with a moderate pot head, and he really wants us to smoke while we're up there, so I'm waiting to see what the consensus is on Americans smoking while in Canada (both in Canada's opinion and in America's) If you're following the rules of the province, then it shouldn't be a big deal. Just don't bring anything back with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Yeah, I went to California earlier this year and bought a bunch of edibles. Totally legal. I had to leave some there, but it was completely fine. In fact, the vendors are real cool people Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesset Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Yeah, but iirc Trump at one point threatened to start enforcing the federal ban, so that might change, or it might be arbitrarily different (though, we're white, so probably arbitrarily different in our favor *shrugs*) My skin is finally getting softI'll scrub until the damn thing comes off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Agreed, but I'm sure you're aware that the US could use the extra cash flow. The only reason why we aren't all living in Hoover Houses is because we haven't accepted that our net worth is negative. Marijuana taxes are not going to fix anyone's fiscal problems lol. One of the most overstated and blatantly wrong assumptions about legalization is that it'll be some panacea of fiscal salvation. A simple look at the numbers proves this completely incorrect.... for example, Colorado makes (generously) 150 million per year on taxing marijuana, which is a grand total of.... .4% of their annual *state* budget I'm going to Canada on vacation next year with a moderate pot head, and he really wants us to smoke while we're up there, so I'm waiting to see what the consensus is on Americans smoking while in Canada (both in Canada's opinion and in America's) there wouldn't be any rules in Canada preventing tourist consumption (though I suppose it's possible specific cities or provinces might try to restrict sales to citizens only, which I doubt would hold up in court). As far as entering the US goes, it's up to the individual discretion of the border guard, which is the way it's always been. Obviously you wouldn't want to volunteer that information. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I'm not saying it will magically save our financial crisis, but anything that returns positive should be considered at this point Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I'm not saying it will magically save our financial crisis, but anything that returns positive should be considered at this point sure, but taxation isn't all benefits - it has costs too. Sometimes the costs are useful (see carbon taxes as an example). But taxing marijuana doesn't fix any sort of fiscal problem, at least not without causing a far bigger one. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 I'm not saying it will magically save our financial crisis, but anything that returns positive should be considered at this point sure, but taxation isn't all benefits - it has costs too. Sometimes the costs are useful (see carbon taxes as an example). But taxing marijuana doesn't fix any sort of fiscal problem, at least not without causing a far bigger one. It also depends on the product. Social costs of alcohol (hospital, public works, missed work, chronic conditions... etc) for example as so high our provincial government does not make a profit off of it, despite owning the marketplace. I don't see the social costs of marijuana being as high, which doesn't warrant as high a tax. It's a balancing act, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalphite Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Yeah I went to Vancouver this summer and even as I was a tourist I was able to buy medical marijuana there lol, I just had to sign a laminated form with a dry erase marker saying that I was over 19 and I was good. This will make it even easier for tourists haha. I've been in Washington for the last few years where it's been legal and everything is fine and weed isn't even too much more expensive than it was in other places I've been - honestly its a bit cheaper lol. pretty much all positives. Makes some revenue for the state and gives people some more freedom. Yay Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gang Sabre Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Considering alcohol is incredibly dangerous and has the worst withdrawel of all mind altering substances, I find myself wondering why weed wasn't legalized centuries ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 Well, it's official. Marijuana is legal in Canada. Thoughts Ontario-ites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gang Sabre Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 British Columbia is known to have the best bud in Canada but there will be no physical stores. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 British Columbia is known to have the best bud in Canada but there will be no physical stores. :(Is that something that is coming soon? I know Ontario will be waiting until next year for physical stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalphite Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Wait then what happens to the dispensaries in British Columbia that already exist lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 Wait then what happens to the dispensaries in British Columbia that already exist lol? Generally, they're to be shut down because it's not "legal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 well, it's just status quo. all the ones in BC and elsewhere that have been operating for a while should have been shut down ages ago too. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 More so it's up to whether the police care to enforce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendenison Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 It would be great if they really legalized it worldwide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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