Ts_Stormrage Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Similar to a crossbow, although this one is slower, 2handed (with normal crossbow you could also wield a shield), and double in range (same as longbow on short range) Range lvl required: 30 Strength lvl required: 10 No combat stats other then +28 range Weapon could be f2p, and like arrows, the bolts can be made on p2p using the smithing, crafting and fletching skill (Smith 5 bolts from 1 iron bar, craft the opal and pearl bolt tips or buy the barbed ones, and fletch it all together) Damage wise it would be similar to the normal crossbow normal bolts: hit 1 higher then iron arrows pearl bolts: hit 1 higher then steel arrows opal bolts: hit 1 higher then mithril arrows barbed bolts: hit 1 higher then adamant arrows But with the Arbalest, they can hit 2dmg higherthen their respective arrows Bolts can be poisoned liek arrows (5 at a time) on p2p PLEASE NO FLAMING I rahter you come up with suggestions to make crossbows more used yourself, or even just alterations to my idea... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono789 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Sounds interesting. I suppose there should be a bit more variety in crossbows considering how rarely they are used. I've beaten the Heroe's Quest, oh yeah! Ummm, now what? I know, magic training! How FUN is that? Yippee! And that was my waste of space called a sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin_gangsta0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 doh f2p's cant use other than normal bolts.... but it could be more accurate and powerfull than bows but slower... and f2p's making bolts well its a member skill so why give a part of a (whole) member skill to f2p. if you would add a part they should give up to addy arrows and should put maple trees to make maple bows....so otherwise but the bolt thingy maybe a little bad... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 doh f2p's cant use other than normal bolts.... but it could be more accurate and powerfull than bows but slower... and f2p's making bolts well its a member skill so why give a part of a (whole) member skill to f2p. if you would add a part they should give up to addy arrows and should put maple trees to make maple bows....so otherwise but the bolt thingy maybe a little bad... :) I think you misread: Arrows can be used on f2p, but only MADE on p2p im suggesting the same thing for bolts... one can only smith bronze wire on p2p too, so why not for ironbars into regular bolts? EDIT: you didnt misread, it was a typo indeed :) Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin_gangsta0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 doh f2p's cant use other than normal bolts.... but it could be more accurate and powerfull than bows but slower... and f2p's making bolts well its a member skill so why give a part of a (whole) member skill to f2p. if you would add a part they should give up to addy arrows and should put maple trees to make maple bows....so otherwise but the bolt thingy maybe a little bad... :) I think you misread: Arrows can be used on f2p, but only MADE on p2p im suggesting the same thing for bolts... one can only smith bronze wire on p2p too, so why not for ironbars into regular bolts? oh sorry... theres something umm odd... Weapon could be f2p, and like arrows, the bolts can be made on f2p using the smithing, crafting and fletching skill (Smith 5 bolts from 1 iron bar, craft the opal and pearl bolt tips or buy the barbed ones, and fletch it all together) doesn't that mean you can make bolts in f2p or is it just a typo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 edited previous post, it was idneed a typo Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I agree the crossbow weapon should be increased in variety, but I don't think they should be made two-handed; because crossbows in Runescape are meant to be a one-handed weapon. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 I agree the crossbow weapon should be increased in variety, but I don't think they should be made two-handed; because crossbows in Runescape are meant to be a one-handed weapon. the crossbow used atm, yes... its a tiny one but the arbalest actually requires 2 arms and a foot to load it :) (Google it) Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhenriksen Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 and a foot? well, i would like to have the sort of cxrossbow Leonardo Davinci made, the machine-crossbow, its a wheel which allways gives you a loaded crossbow,contains five crossbows, i just thinks it would be funny to have it... R.I.P. Shiva and Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 and a foot? well, i would like to have the sort of cxrossbow Leonardo Davinci made, the machine-crossbow, its a wheel which allways gives you a loaded crossbow,contains five crossbows, i just thinks it would be funny to have it... It sounds like that weapon would work more like a Dawrven Multi-Cannon rather than a personal weapon. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 You're talking about something similar to the ancient japanese x-bow... called a Cho-ku-no That would be my suggestion for a weapon which requires lvl 80 range to wield, but i wasnt gonna suggest it until "eastern lands" wouldve come out... Cho-ku-no really works like a crossbow able to fire multiple times, but requires longer to load... It's effects could be similar to that of the MSB spec (without it being a spec), but then shoot about 4 times, the drawback would be that you have to wield the weapon for 5 seconds before it was able to fire again... BUT LETS STICK TO THE TOPIC PL0X Arbalest = heavy xbow, look it up Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 The chu-ko-nu was a Chinese weapon and is severely overrated by ignorant people. Technically all crossbows should be two-handed, because you simply can't effectively aim and fire a standard-size crossbow with one hand. One point against it is that the firing lever is operated more or less at the back of the stock even though it connects further ahead, and another is that you can't operate said lever with only one hand on the weapon without breaking your wrist either while aiming or after firing. For the record, an arbalest was not a "heavy" crossbow so much as it was a siege crossbow, smaller than a ballista but bigger than the actual heavy crossbows with steel arms rather than wood. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Why, even long rifles these days are way more effective two-handed rather than one-handed, but I suppose JAGeX wanted to create a one-handed bow weapon when they created the Runescapian crossbow. But seriously, the crossbow is a two-handed weapon in real life. And yes, the Chu-Ko-Nu is a Chinese weapon... Chu-Ko is a translation of the surname of a famous Chinese tactician, and Nu means "crossbow". Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 my bad, it was chinese indeed but then again, im talking about a heavier-then-we-currently-have crossbow :) Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin_gangsta0 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Why, even long rifles these days are way more effective two-handed rather than one-handed, but I suppose JAGeX wanted to create a one-handed bow weapon when they created the Runescapian crossbow. i think because the "dragon slayer" can't be made if it would be two handed and that would be unfair for ranged (you can go melee,mage but not ranged if not using crossbow) and an real crossbow is very effective(if you would have rs Xbow) think if you can load an crossbow its like from 1-100 power its maybe 40 while an what you must keep with leg on groung and with 2 hands load it it would be maybe 90-95! so thats alot better than normal RS Xbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 and now in english please... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpinkus Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 edited previous post, it was idneed a typo Sorry, but that is very funny :) I'd put it in my sig, but I'm not that kind of guy. I'm all for more ranging weapons, but I thought most rangers already pretty satisfied. Lpinkus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 OOPS :oops: oh well, put in your sig if you like... im in 2 peoples siggy already ;) i wanna be in EVERYONEs... as for the comment on satisfied rangers: most p2p ranger are indeed ;) Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 back on topic now... watcha all think? supporters? Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegstilf Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Well the arbalest has been suggested before. It would be an okay addition, but there's not much place for it with the crystal bow and Karil's X-Bow. However, I do support the addition of being able to make normal bolts with fletching. In f2p I'd rather have yew bows released than a fairly good crossbow. \/\/ There ye go Ts! Note: Temp sig! (Maybe) \/\/ Abutebaris modo subjunctivo denuo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchief117 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 isnt an Arabalest a siege weapon? lol you plannin to stand on it? =p :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 woohoo, im in another sig :) thats 3 now :) Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin_gangsta0 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 and now in english please... if you mean my it was that it would be unfair to rangers because you cant kill Elvarg the dragon with a two handed weapon! thats propably why they had it 1 handed... mages have staffs which are one handed melee's have a lot of swords so ranged(pures) cant kill it without the one handed crossbow!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 An Arbalest is so large that it requires four oxen to pull it...I don't think that will be a two-handed weapon. Currently, the Cho-ko-nu in the game is Karil's crossbow. In fact, compare Karils bow with a google picture of a Cho-ko-nu and they are almost the same. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin_gangsta0 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 An Arbalest is so large that it requires four oxen to pull it...I don't think that will be a two-handed weapon. Currently, the Cho-ko-nu in the game is Karil's crossbow. In fact, compare Karils bow with a google picture of a Cho-ko-nu and they are almost the same. http://www.darksiren.net/stuff/PierreMo ... balest.jpg (wdf is that picture) i dont think it looks like it would need more than a foot and hand or two... though theres many arrows i see but 1 arrow argh i cant find any good pictures than normal crossbows lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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