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Similar to a crossbow, although this one is slower, 2handed (with normal crossbow you could also wield a shield), and double in range (same as longbow on short range)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Range lvl required: 30

 

 

 

Strength lvl required: 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No combat stats other then +28 range

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weapon could be f2p, and like arrows, the bolts can be made on p2p using the smithing, crafting and fletching skill (Smith 5 bolts from 1 iron bar, craft the opal and pearl bolt tips or buy the barbed ones, and fletch it all together)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Damage wise it would be similar to the normal crossbow

 

 

 

normal bolts: hit 1 higher then iron arrows

 

 

 

pearl bolts: hit 1 higher then steel arrows

 

 

 

opal bolts: hit 1 higher then mithril arrows

 

 

 

barbed bolts: hit 1 higher then adamant arrows

 

 

 

But with the Arbalest, they can hit 2dmg higherthen their respective arrows

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bolts can be poisoned liek arrows (5 at a time) on p2p

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PLEASE NO FLAMING

 

 

 

I rahter you come up with suggestions to make crossbows more used yourself, or even just alterations to my idea...

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Sounds interesting. I suppose there should be a bit more variety in crossbows considering how rarely they are used.

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doh f2p's cant use other than normal bolts.... but it could be more accurate and powerfull than bows but slower... and f2p's making bolts well its a member skill so why give a part of a (whole) member skill to f2p. if you would add a part they should give up to addy arrows and should put maple trees to make maple bows....so otherwise but the bolt thingy maybe a little bad... :)

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doh f2p's cant use other than normal bolts.... but it could be more accurate and powerfull than bows but slower... and f2p's making bolts well its a member skill so why give a part of a (whole) member skill to f2p. if you would add a part they should give up to addy arrows and should put maple trees to make maple bows....so otherwise but the bolt thingy maybe a little bad... :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you misread:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Arrows can be used on f2p, but only MADE on p2p

 

 

 

im suggesting the same thing for bolts... one can only smith bronze wire on p2p too, so why not for ironbars into regular bolts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: you didnt misread, it was a typo indeed :)

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doh f2p's cant use other than normal bolts.... but it could be more accurate and powerfull than bows but slower... and f2p's making bolts well its a member skill so why give a part of a (whole) member skill to f2p. if you would add a part they should give up to addy arrows and should put maple trees to make maple bows....so otherwise but the bolt thingy maybe a little bad... :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you misread:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Arrows can be used on f2p, but only MADE on p2p

 

 

 

im suggesting the same thing for bolts... one can only smith bronze wire on p2p too, so why not for ironbars into regular bolts?

 

 

 

oh sorry... theres something umm odd...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weapon could be f2p, and like arrows, the bolts can be made on f2p using the smithing, crafting and fletching skill (Smith 5 bolts from 1 iron bar, craft the opal and pearl bolt tips or buy the barbed ones, and fletch it all together)

 

 

 

doesn't that mean you can make bolts in f2p or is it just a typo??

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edited previous post, it was idneed a typo

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I agree the crossbow weapon should be increased in variety, but I don't think they should be made two-handed; because crossbows in Runescape are meant to be a one-handed weapon.

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I agree the crossbow weapon should be increased in variety, but I don't think they should be made two-handed; because crossbows in Runescape are meant to be a one-handed weapon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the crossbow used atm, yes... its a tiny one

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but the arbalest actually requires 2 arms and a foot to load it :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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and a foot? well, i would like to have the sort of cxrossbow Leonardo Davinci made, the machine-crossbow, its a wheel which allways gives you a loaded crossbow,contains five crossbows, i just thinks it would be funny to have it...

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and a foot? well, i would like to have the sort of cxrossbow Leonardo Davinci made, the machine-crossbow, its a wheel which allways gives you a loaded crossbow,contains five crossbows, i just thinks it would be funny to have it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It sounds like that weapon would work more like a Dawrven Multi-Cannon rather than a personal weapon.

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You're talking about something similar to the ancient japanese x-bow... called a Cho-ku-no

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That would be my suggestion for a weapon which requires lvl 80 range to wield, but i wasnt gonna suggest it until "eastern lands" wouldve come out...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cho-ku-no really works like a crossbow able to fire multiple times, but requires longer to load...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's effects could be similar to that of the MSB spec (without it being a spec), but then shoot about 4 times, the drawback would be that you have to wield the weapon for 5 seconds before it was able to fire again...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BUT LETS STICK TO THE TOPIC PL0X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Arbalest = heavy xbow, look it up

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The chu-ko-nu was a Chinese weapon and is severely overrated by ignorant people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Technically all crossbows should be two-handed, because you simply can't effectively aim and fire a standard-size crossbow with one hand. One point against it is that the firing lever is operated more or less at the back of the stock even though it connects further ahead, and another is that you can't operate said lever with only one hand on the weapon without breaking your wrist either while aiming or after firing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the record, an arbalest was not a "heavy" crossbow so much as it was a siege crossbow, smaller than a ballista but bigger than the actual heavy crossbows with steel arms rather than wood.

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Why, even long rifles these days are way more effective two-handed rather than one-handed, but I suppose JAGeX wanted to create a one-handed bow weapon when they created the Runescapian crossbow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But seriously, the crossbow is a two-handed weapon in real life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, the Chu-Ko-Nu is a Chinese weapon... Chu-Ko is a translation of the surname of a famous Chinese tactician, and Nu means "crossbow".

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my bad, it was chinese indeed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but then again, im talking about a heavier-then-we-currently-have crossbow :)

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Why, even long rifles these days are way more effective two-handed rather than one-handed, but I suppose JAGeX wanted to create a one-handed bow weapon when they created the Runescapian crossbow.

 

 

 

i think because the "dragon slayer" can't be made if it would be two handed and that would be unfair for ranged (you can go melee,mage but not ranged if not using crossbow) and an real crossbow is very effective(if you would have rs Xbow) think if you can load an crossbow its like from 1-100 power its maybe 40 while an what you must keep with leg on groung and with 2 hands load it it would be maybe 90-95! so thats alot better than normal RS Xbow

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and now in english please...

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edited previous post, it was idneed a typo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but that is very funny :) I'd put it in my sig, but I'm not that kind of guy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm all for more ranging weapons, but I thought most rangers already pretty satisfied.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OOPS :oops:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh well, put in your sig if you like... im in 2 peoples siggy already ;) i wanna be in EVERYONEs...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for the comment on satisfied rangers: most p2p ranger are indeed ;)

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back on topic now... watcha all think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well the arbalest has been suggested before. It would be an okay addition, but there's not much place for it with the crystal bow and Karil's X-Bow. However, I do support the addition of being able to make normal bolts with fletching. In f2p I'd rather have yew bows released than a fairly good crossbow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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woohoo, im in another sig :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thats 3 now :)

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and now in english please...

 

 

 

if you mean my it was that it would be unfair to rangers because you cant kill Elvarg the dragon with a two handed weapon! thats propably why they had it 1 handed... mages have staffs which are one handed melee's have a lot of swords so ranged(pures) cant kill it without the one handed crossbow!!...

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An Arbalest is so large that it requires four oxen to pull it...I don't think that will be a two-handed weapon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Currently, the Cho-ko-nu in the game is Karil's crossbow. In fact, compare Karils bow with a google picture of a Cho-ko-nu and they are almost the same.

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An Arbalest is so large that it requires four oxen to pull it...I don't think that will be a two-handed weapon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Currently, the Cho-ko-nu in the game is Karil's crossbow. In fact, compare Karils bow with a google picture of a Cho-ko-nu and they are almost the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.darksiren.net/stuff/PierreMo ... balest.jpg (wdf is that picture) i dont think it looks like it would need more than a foot and hand or two... though theres many arrows i see but 1 arrow argh i cant find any good pictures than normal crossbows lol

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