Awesome read on both article, i really liked the new ideas for pvp and no extreme on pvp is indeed sad. It's like saying ppl with over 80 agil cant go in pvp because they can run longer then noobs or anyone over 90 def because its annoying to dont hit. Actually i was dming friend(in poh)that had overloads (i only have 85 herblore... poor ftw) and overloads doesntt seem to help that much) Jagex need to do something :wall: