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I like all of these suggestions, especially adding some type of reward system. I was just kinda let down after my first win and all I got was a message saying I won. I wouldn't mind if Jagex just put in a scoreboard. A bank would be nice though, since if say you're a mage and you run out of runes, you can change to another style or perhaps get more of them(I wouldn't see why you wouldn't have brought them all but whatever). My two cents on the idea.

I have to say I discovered Runescape through Addictinggames and from that Miniclip. I had played it a little bit before, but I really started playing it after in 2004. I have noticed a decline in the maturity of the average player, but I don't think we can completely contribute that to Miniclip. Sure it is a more kid friendly site, but not everyone entering from there was an annoying child. I certainly am not. In my case though I was linked to Miniclip, it's not like I went there on purpose. I do see where you are coming from though. Miniclip was able to bring in more people to the game than Jagex could do alone. You have to admit that Jagex has certainly made the game much more kid-friendly though. They have all the warnings so ignorant children don't do something stupid, some monsters have been made "cuter,' crazy censoring restrictions and more kid-friendly themes. I have been playing long enough though to notice changes. There are definitely more beggars, scammers, macros and general noobs, but I don't think it's quite as "world-threatening" as you think. The only thing in that could be the macroers, but do you really honestly think Miniclip itself has "killed" the game. I don't. I don't want to really support Miniclip because most every game on there is terrible (with the exception of Heli Attack), but it's only that I was introduced to this game that I'm doing it.

Sam's Club pwns Costco and pollutes the environment even more.

Ahh I see your point, but here is a counter-argument. Don't you have to burn fuel to make the energy to run the computer and play RS?

I'm still happy because we got these large updates and since I never really did the wild or drop parties it's not that's bad. But I do see everyone's point in the Wild if you are into that.

Well said. You don't NEED the extra space, it would just be convenient. Then again F2P players don't pay, so why should Jagex make something more convenient for them? ^In a survey taken, only 17,400 out of 103,000 actually click on the the ads, which is about 17%. So they make more money off of memberships than ads, meaning F2P players really aren't a great source of income. Here's something to think about and why we should get at least something. Members, let alone the whole game, could not survive without F2P. It's impossible. I know for a fact that almost everyone played F2P for a bit before they decided to go to members. The massive slowdown of new people into the game would slow down, because really would you want to pay $5 for a Java-based game you had never played before? Also, regardless of whatever you may say, the economy is dependent upon F2P. Who usually buys the stuff from a F2P'er like yews? Most of the time it's a member because any F2P'er knows there isn't much you can do with raw materials, especially regarding logs. Also members are paying for there time on the game. I know that there are pure P2P skillers, but really how many out of the whole population is like that. I'd guess a tiny amount. That's because you have to make the time in your game worth it. Also what is so bad about us getting a small amount of space. Knowing Jagex, if they ever give bankspace to F2P, it will be to ALL players, meaning members would get extra space as well. On top of that they might even get more than what F2P would get. You do realise I made an arguement and you still haven't responded to it, so I'd advise you justify that one before you try to defend yourselves with things that are 1 post. Yes I do realize you made an argument. To me it sounded like "Why would Jagex give to F2P because what do they contribute to the game? That's what I did.

Well said. You don't NEED the extra space, it would just be convenient. Then again F2P players don't pay, so why should Jagex make something more convenient for them? ^In a survey taken, only 17,400 out of 103,000 actually click on the the ads, which is about 17%. So they make more money off of memberships than ads, meaning F2P players really aren't a great source of income. Here's something to think about and why we should get at least something. Members, let alone the whole game, could not survive without F2P. It's impossible. I know for a fact that almost everyone played F2P for a bit before they decided to go to members. The massive slowdown of new people into the game would slow down, because really would you want to pay $5 for a Java-based game you had never played before? Also, regardless of whatever you may say, the economy is dependent upon F2P. Who usually buys the stuff from a F2P'er like yews? Most of the time it's a member because any F2P'er knows there isn't much you can do with raw materials, especially regarding logs. Also members are paying for there time on the game. I know that there are pure P2P skillers, but really how many out of the whole population is like that. I'd guess a tiny amount. That's because you have to make the time in your game worth it. Also what is so bad about us getting a small amount of space. Knowing Jagex, if they ever give bankspace to F2P, it will be to ALL players, meaning members would get extra space as well. On top of that they might even get more than what F2P would get.

A unicorn. I was level four at the time. I was killing goblins and I figured "Hey, I'm good enough." So I tried to kill the unicorn with about two cooked beefs, so it owned me pretty quickly. Right after that I realized that fishing is a valuable skill.

[hide] Your nature rune arguement contradicted itself. Grand exchange. If your in draynor, just go to the nearest general store, or better yet, the old man's house. Power amulet is effective for mage... just don't wear all that other useless junk. "Regarding the random event boxes, he's suggesting that they create the boxes as a way to store the whole sets, taking up only a few spaces instead of the 19." What? 10 is more than enough. You won't carry ALL of them, because you CAN'T wear all of them at once. And why carry more than one if you can only wear one set at once? And tinderboxes are in the WOM's house. Nice. :boohoo: "Omg, I just had to drop ALL my holiday items. This is bs. f2p Should have like 6 more rows of bank." (Another thing I heard today.) :P [/hide] Ok let's start off again with the nature runes. What I meant was that you if you just kept your nature runes in the bank you wouldn't need to walk all the way to the Grand Exchange, because you'd have them your bank. Also, you'd most likely lose money in the process of constantly buying and selling runes. It was already addressed about the Wise Old Man's tinderbox. I know I forgot about it, since I hardly ever go there. I was just trying to address a point. The whole time frame (Notice it said FIVE to ten minutes) was regarding what general store you went to. Some might not have thought to go to Lumbrigde and journeyed to Falador. Also with the tele, you can only use that once per 30 minutes, so if you have already used it then you have to walk. I've checked, the power amulet is effective for a mage, but not quite as effective for a mage as the magic amulet. I don't quite know what you mean by "all that other useless junk," unless you mean the different amulets. As it's been said before, a lot of us like keeping ALL of our randoms, since they show how long we've been playing, and also because a change of costume can be fun when doing other things. If you do have all of them it is 19 spaces. I know you can't wear them all at once, that would be impossible and stupid, something I am not. I don't mind giving all my holiday items to Diango. I'm not complaining about that. I'm complaining that with all the items I use most of the time, they can't all fit. Note I only have about two complete random sets and I have about maybe 4 free spaces, when I am wearing my armor. That means when it comes time to put that up, I can't. EDIT: Remembered you can make armor sets that take up one space. But still when I put up my cape, gloves, amulet, weapon, and any other thing I have in my inventory, there isn't that much.

In your example, one could walk into the Wise Old Man's house and take a tinderbox from the shelf. But the basic point is plenty valid. Whoops totally forgot about that one, but you get the point I'm trying to make.

I just don't understand why some members can't get it through their head that what they consider "useless" and can be just thrown away, can be important to others and is too annoying to have to re-buy every time that you need it. I mean some things like tinderboxes and chisels are cheap enough to keep re-buying, but it's just really an inconvenience to walk out of your way to just pick one up. Say you're in Draynor cutting willows and you think, "Hey I should train my firemaking!" You go into your bank and remember that you had to chuck it to save some space the other day. So you have to walk all the way to the nearest general store a 5-10 minute roundtrip; time that you could have been training if you had been able to keep that tinderbox. Also you mentioned buying runes,such as natures, when you want to use them. You have any idea how annoying it is to find someone selling natures? The Grand Exchange it should make things easier, but still as I've said the trip could cost you time that could have been spent more wisely training. Regarding the random event boxes, he's suggesting that they create the boxes as a way to store the whole sets, taking up only a few spaces instead of the 19. And much to your dismay, I do work on many different aspects of the game at once and I do use most all of those items you listed. Regarding the amulets, power amulets ARE NOT as helpful to say magic as a magic amulet is. "So let's recap" we do need all these items at one time. As I've said before too, EVERY SINGLE ONE of your arguments have been addressed before, so it's really a waste of your time to try. If you have a new argument we'll be more than happy to hear it and discuss it with you.

First off, if I may say so, READ THE FIRST PAGE!!! It should answer most of those rebuttals. Secondly, we've already heard and disputed all those arguments before. Your ideas aren't new, so they aren't going to have much of an impact on this campaign. Now if you do read the first page and make a brand-new argument, I'm sure myself or another supporter will debate it nicely with you.

Yeah, between the two, if they both happened, F2P would be set for years on end. Literally. 8-) ~Mr. Devnull I mean if that happened about 25 slots would be opened up for me.

I really hope so, or at least not a pointless update we don't really need. But really the fan club is quite funny.

Yes, but he drinks to much Jesus Juice with kids, passes out, and gets indicted.