Wilmot

Patience? Jagex has stated multiple times, over multiple years, that they have an end-all, beat all for bots. Why should we believe that this time is going to be any different? Maybe Jagex come up with some update that completely destroys bots. Or more likely seriously harms them. Let's hope so anyway <_< What bugs me is that people rant and rave about these stupid Jagex-doesn't-care-and-makes-money-from-bots. From all the evidence out there, they are good honest nerds (that occasionally do something dim) and I trust they are doing their best to fix my game :)

Using my super duper powers of deduction and common sense, I can conclude the following :- 1. Bots are a problem 2. Jagex isn't stupid and is working on some *big* answer to bots. 3. This is taking significant time / resources. 4. Jagex would like to have some players left when they are done. So relax and be patient. Have some perspective. Imagine it from their perspective - would you want one of your volunteer mods bashing your game while you're doing everything you can to fix it? ^and to the post above makes a important point I think (along with a slight poo obsession) ; Any organisation that from the outside looks to be some singular monolithic entity seldom is.

Is this wrong then? The chance of not getting a whip is 511/512, so the probability of not getting a whip 1500 times in a row is (511/512)^1500 = .0532... = 5.32% Storm is right; the method impressionist uses breaks down for low frequency events.

Can someone explain why they are taking it for granted that ss > korasi's ? ss = 82 slash 82 str korasi's + defender = 89 slash 75 str (+ a little def) So ss might be very slightly better, but don't pretend it's some huge difference.

That's what I thought as well when I tried melee vs magic myself (minus overloads and turmoil). They're so close I don't think it matters so much as all the other junk you do at barrows, like do I get KC / if so how much / what food to use / which brothers to pray on / are claws that good? I'm looking for that really smooth fast setup #-o

Yes I get that void + turmoil + overloads + rapier is the fastest way. Who'd have guessed :-P However, actually killing the brothers doesn't take that much time anyway assuming any good method. What I want to know is what supplies to use. Pray vs what? Food vs what? Take guthan's? Bones to peaches? Is KC worth getting? If so how many?

Well that's the crux of it isn't it? I guess I'll just have to try mixing it up a bit. I feel like the best method is not going to be banking after every chest though - it does take a while to run back. Edit; About dharok, I was kinda worried he was luring me into a trap and was going to destroy me when I wasn't paying attention. As for the fastest way, my stats are pretty similar to yours. How would you do barrows fast? Is barrage that much quicker than fire surge?

1.) Cool, makes me feel better. 2.) When I say without high herblore, I mean I have pretty much every other stat / item I could need. Is it better to use guthan's and heal up in the tunnels or just use food and bank more often?

Question 1. I've been using SoL spec to tank dharok with no prayer. No one else seems to do this. Do they know something I don't? Question 2. What's the fastest way to do barrows without high herblore? EDIT: Yes I get that void + turmoil + overloads + rapier is the fastest way. However, actually killing the brothers doesn't take that much time anyway assuming any good method. What I want to know is what supplies to use. Pray vs what? Food vs what? Take guthan's? Bones to peaches? Is KC worth getting? If so how many?

IMO the standout best way to train magic is to burst rock lobsters while using battle robes (from fist of guthix) and staff of light. You get tons of magic and constitution xp, as well as lots of charms - and the cost is much lower than you'd expect; I think something like ~2-3gp/magic xp, though I'm not certain on that. Otherwise, just suck it up and alch :thumbup:

This one? http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Calculators/Miscellania

Try and get karil's. And a fury doesn't hurt either - it might make a better borrow than the godsword; mage def is really important. And yes, get that tortoise/80 range. You know, jad is pretty good range xp. Just sayin' :thumbsup:

As long as *you* are keeping your character logged in you're not afk. As for where to train, I think bandits are the best for really lazy almost afk training.

The trick with jad is not to try and do everything at once. I always only do ONE THING inbetween his attacks. So before healers come I'm thinking something like this And when healers come use the same method, i.e. This way there's no multitasking at all, just one great big long shopping list. As for mundane tips, I'd suggest giving eagle eye a miss, if anything use the 10% one or nothing at all. Less prayer drain = less to worry about. Also, I suggest you kill jad with a 10/10 crystal longbow on rapid.

I think you're being a bit quick to blame everything on not being maxed - sure you won't make quite as much, but not by such drastic amounts. Also, here's a thought, why not use the time you're stuck on a laggy connection to max out? Making money isn't the only thing to do.