Downfall Been there through our journey from 141 to PvP Clan, whole thing has been a blast. Honestly i can say no clan has achieved what our clan has so far, you don't see any clans from 141 PvPing or in the Top 20. PH comes in close from the open cc to clan, but they did start in pvp. Not as a 75+ 141 Clan. I mean when i first joined there were no applications, and our first forums were hosted by muux.org. Thing i love about Downfall, is not giving a [cabbage] of what other people say, or thing of us. We are who we are, and don't care if you don't like that. Also like our community, one second we'll be raging at each other then best friends. Most of us don't let little things become big things.