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Ah, but can you truly have freedom without security? :twisted: Perhaps you can't, but that's beside the point. The point is, we have enough security; they already took enough of our freedoms. @Giordano The whole point of America is that you can say whatever, express whatever, you know? This law would give the government the power to indefinitely imprison anyone, for essentially any reason they want. This is a crazy mockery of everything America stands for, not to mention unconstitutional. And our government has proved its willingness to abuse its power in the past.

I don't think American citizens don't have much to worry here, I've never heard of someone getting dragged off by the Patriot Act. If you keep your mouth shut, you would be alright. I would sense this bill affects more people overseas rather than people within America. Not that I like this thing, but what else can we do? He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither. -Benjamin Franklin

Don't go after girls just to go after girls... It is a waste of your time, money, and dignity. You don't want to be that guy who just chases girls around who looks blatantly *Forever Alone* do you? I guess you're right... I just feel like I have a sort of a hole in my life now, because I don't have anyone I can think about like that. How do you suggest I go about meeting some of them? I haven't exactly kept in touch with people from my old school. Flyingjj, if you're still reading this, do you have any suggestions for places I could go, things I could do?

Huh. Thanks for being frank, guys. I guess I'll just go after the other (admittably subpar) girls at my school, until she decides on if she was being truthful or not. I just want to stress, I really think she was being genuine, but it might just be my naïveté. The next time I post will probably be in a week or so, maybe less.

Yup. Take it from my experience: avoid girls who are "bisexual". They are either seeking attention and will fill your life with useless drama, or, are unsure what they want and you shouldn't bother with them until they're ready (aka, older). No, no, she's seriously bisexual. I guess your second point probably stands, but she's accepted it years ago (I asked her and other people who were at this school before me). Trust me, i can tell she's sincere about bisexual. Now, the lesbian thing, i might take as an excuse, but not i a bad way. When i mentioned "bad relationships" earlier, I meant like, coerced by her boyfriend to do "sexualy regrettable things". I think she might be a little scared to be in another relationship with a guy after that. Though she is probably not really lesbian, I'm going to have to stay in the friend-zone for a while, I think.

Alright, I ended out coming out of this a little better than expected. Here is the rundown: She was sick yesterday Spend all day nervous about what I will say wednesday Approximate what I'm going to say (I realize you weren't ready for a relationship, I moved to fast, I wasn't really ready for a relationship either, still want to be friends, blah) Tuesday night, try to talk to her on facebook, she's not on Message her, say "can I talk to you tomorrow?" Talk to her after first hour in the hall Explain to her about above She says thanks, we both walk to second hour (we have geometry together) She says just before class starts, get this . . . She doesn't detest me or anything, she just thinks she might be a lesbian! Great! Jesus, I knew she was bisexual, but this, this just sucks. Sigh, there goes almost every chance I have in this school.

It's hard to give an exact time because it's different for everyone... take your time and be patient with her. Depending on how badly she was hurt in the past and how close you guys get in the coming weeks/months, it may be a while or it may be forever. Don't get too discouraged though and don't think that much about it. As people have said here already, don't overthink. It tends to make things way too complicated (counter-intuitive sometimes, especially when you're in an emotionally confusing spot... but trust me it's true). Make sure she's comfortable because if she feels rushed or pressured again, you may be pretty much screwed. Anyhow, as long as you still have feelings for her, you'll always have those butterflies but it's kind of a nice feeling :P Also, I just read Iamdan's post about touching. Read into that (link is in his sig), because he gives some solid tips there. Holy crap! How did I not find his blog before! I will immediately try to apply (almost) all of these to my life. (the last minute resistance stuff doesn't exactly apply to me)

All righty then. Probably last question, how long should I expect to be in the friend zone, and how long should I be feeling jittery when she's around?

Huh. Yes, actually. It was all pretty awkward. The beginning parts aren't important, what is important is that she said she didn't want to because relationships are a lot of stress, and she still wants to be friends. I guess this means, at the least, temporary delegation to the friend-zone. I guess I'll be over it soon. I hope so.

*sigh* Guess what happened?

My god, Snuffy's? How did I NOT think of that? That would be perfect! I live near Como lake, a few blocks from Roseville.

What time zone are you in? I'm in central standard, but lunch is around 10:30 for me(my school starts early)

I can see the whole thing forming in my head already. Thank you so much, all of you. I really would not be able to do this at all, if it weren't for you randox. Thank you SO MUCH. I'll write again tomorrow, and tell you how the first stage went. I just want to thank you one more time, for spending so much time on my case. I should probably let you get to work on Kalphite now.

Alright, polo, khakis, good. But, once again, a stumbling block. I have things I absolutely cannot get out of Monday and Tuesday evenings. When should I ask her out? I feel like tuesday would be awkward, because then there would be another day of school afterwards. But I also feel if the date would be on wednsday, it would be too rushed. And sligtly related, when should I ask for her phone number? That's something that happens on the first date, right?

Olive Garden is pretty "meh" Italian. Chinese food sounds good, though. Do they have Leean Chin in Canada? It's like Chinese fast food, but it tastes pretty good. On clothing: I have black pants, khakies,and blue jeans. I have blue and white polos, white button-up, a tweed jacket, and a blue blazer. I also have some more casual clothes, but they aren't very attractive. Oh boy, I just get so excited, getting advice on all I need to know from someone with more experience than me. Oh, and money probably won't be a big issue, it turns out. My parents can give me about 50 or so bucks (first dates are kind if a tradition in my family, usualy I need to do some serious work to get that kind of money). So, as long as it's reasonable, how I come off is the important variable.