Porpington9

Good point, but if you had a chestplate and got a torso, you could sell the chestplate and have a piece of armor with close to the same stats, plus an extra 13.6m. Also, with that argument, weapons and armor wouldn't ever cost anything (unless they DECREASE,which you forgot to mention), and the "godsword costs more" argument would lose its validity. But let's move away from chestplate v. torso and go back to the point of this thread!

I don't use a rune defender to hit 29s. Also, the calculator i used was on runehq, they may differ. You seem to be moving away from the topic of godswords and whips and going into chestplates and torsos. I would rather spend 5 hours and get a torso than spend nearly 14m on a chestplate. It is also definitely not the most time consuming platebody to get. If you can go and get an armadyl chestplate, or a bandos chestplate, or a dragon chestplate without buying them in 5 hours I will be very impressed. You have yet to contradict any of the points I made about the godsword v. whip argument. I have hit over a 37 with a godsword (Iforgot to mention, and you may have not taken into account, Bandos special). And even if your calculations are correct, they do not back up your argument because according to you, max hits are not a viable way to determine which is better for training or damage. Your move :D and nicely done, this is the best argument I've had with anyone in a while

You contradict yourself. If it is in fact true that a whip is only 1.5 times as fast, then the godsword would likely end up dealing more damage, and thus more xp. Given that the SS is the same speed as a whip, it would then logically follow that the GS is better for training strength. As to the comment about the multiplying max hits by speed, i was merely demonstrating that I could potentially hit more with a whip in the same time as a godsword, not an exact result, although multiplying damage by speed does produce a potential hit. As to the comment about the fighter torso, that is simply not true. While i prefer bandos, the fighter torso is both free and decent armor, with the best strength bonus for a torso in the game. I would certainly rather have a fighter torso than a bronze chainbody, and I think pretty much any other rational person who is not trying to instigate a pointless argument would say the same. It should also be noted that you don't have any reasoning to back up the fighter torso< bronze chain comment.

I think that cooking is the easiest because of the speed (easily over 300k an hour with sharks). I went 89-94 in one day. Whoever said woodcutting is the easiest, that isnt true :wall: it's under 65k an hour with willows and a dragon axe, making it fairly time consuming. If money is not a factor, crafting is about the same speed as cooking, and construction is also extremely fast. Fletching is free and fast, so that's pretty easy as well.

My max hit with a whip is 29. My max hit with a godsword (no special) is 42 according to a calculator (never actually hit 42). Now, a whip is twice as fast as a godsword. This answers the question of which is better for experience and damage dealt: i could potentially hit a 58 with my whip in the time it takes to hit a max of 42 with a godsword. Also, as has been said before, a whip is obviously much more affordable. However, if you want to train strength, the godsword is easily superior. In addition, godswords are invaluable for bounty hunter (obviously not at the moment) and PvP. Another example of godswords being superior is with barrows, especially the SGS. With its special, the SGS cuts down greatly on costs, and affords multiple trips without banking. Last but not least, the godsword looks awesome, and let's face it: people buy things for looks, otherwise a dragon chain would be worth dirt and bandos chestplates would drop considerably as people favor fighter torsos. All in all, it is hard to say which is better; they both have pros and cons. I personally use a godsword for strength training and a whip for all else.

There are ogres near castle wars that you have access to without a quest. Also, there are fire giants and greater demons in the karamja dungeon that don't require quests; just be sure to bring an axe and 1k coins or so to get in, pay for boat fare, etc.

I think that price manipulation is right. If people are saying "My morals are too high to make easy money," then that's their problem. It's human nature to take the easiest path, and in this case the easiest way to make money is by manipulating prices. But those who say that manipulation of prices is easy have obviously never tried it. It may be easier than killing two thousand steel dragons for a visage, but it is an extremely risky business, where you must rely on the promises of other people not to sell early. Several times, I have lost money because the leaders of a merch clan have sold behind our backs. On the other hand, with higher risks comes higher reward. In addition, regardless of whether it is right or wrong, Jagex can't do a whole lot about it without becoming a metaphorical dictator. As someone who posted before me said, "It's capitalism or communism." Jagex has already taken a step towards communism with the creation of the G.E. and semi-regulation of prices. The next step would be a set price for everything as they see fit, which i doubt will ever happen. So, if you don't like price manipulation, learn some patience and wait for the item you want to go down or join in on the profits.