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  1. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    I don't know if anyone is going to see this or care, but it's funny looking back at something I wrote 4 years ago, when I was 15 (not like I'm old now). I can't even stand to read some of the post and my comments. I was much more immature. Nuff' Said about that. My most important point is that I've come to the conclusion that nostalgia was truly the problem. Having seen the changes from rs2 to post EoC/rs3, I look back at 2010 as if it were RS heaven. My memories of more than about 5 years ago have faded away. Looking back, I was so ignorant to even write this. I hadn't a clue what I wanted changed, and it's ridiculous that I thought I could "make a difference". Pretty much every last person that I argued with were right in their claims. For no reason at all, I guess this is a bump.
  2. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    Tonight, while on my skiller, some moron tried to tell me I was botting because he was standing at the door to the rune shop in Varrock. I clicked on my minimap from the bank to near the shop, and looked down at my homework, I do a lot of multi-tasking. I then took occasional little steps within the game screen, I don't remember exactly what I did but it doesn't exactly matter. After I was in front of the door trying i changed my graphics to hd fullscreen, and looked back and this guy is telling me I was botting and I was reported. I kept trying to explain to him what happened, and he just wouldn't listen. So now I am sending him to this thread so he can read about how much i despise gold farmers and botters and the fact that rwt ruined Runescape. And dude, If you can't tell I am the same guy who posted the thread. look at my username ya turkey.
  3. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    I knew there would be a new "golden age" of rs, like I had said before. And I don't know how, but for some reason it never crossed my mind that dungeoneering could do the job. I see only one problem: the using personal skills and an adventure etc. characteristics aren't being scattered all over the Runescape map, it's just within Daemonheim. And another thing: could this be something Jagex added to the game in effort to continue what people like myself enjoyed in the older days? Could this be a response to all the rants that I have been waiting for? I mean think about it, every time you enter a dungeon you start a new adventure. You have to use various skills and even teamwork/trading to complete your adventure. Just as I said it was more fun to me when players generally would use all skills to their advantage such as mining ores and smithing them into armor. And of course I love dungeoneering as well as some of you.
  4. A problem I see is the combat stats that would be required to realistically/efficiently mine the ore. I rarely train combat anymore, and there would be a lot of people who would much rather be able to mine it at level 3. I understand that some things should be difficult to get and require some combat stats, like living rock caverns for example. A level 3 would end up getting pwned one time or another even on world 84. But for the sake of saving the skill, I think all players should be able to take advantage. Especially considering the amount of skillers there are today. And maybe it's for the sake of creativity but why write up this whole entire system, with names of the weapons and ores etc.? Jagex would never actually use all of these names anyway, so explaining the simple concept would be just as effective.
  5. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    No offence, but that's just [developmentally delayed]ED. Sorry for using caps, but seriously, what you're saying is just complete [cabbage]. 1. Sweatshops aren't even concentrated in Southeast Asia. They are mostly in China. 2. IP banning a whole region is just ridiculous. It clearly shows just how much thought (or the lack thereof) went into your statements. Is that FAIR to the people living there and playing RuneScape? It's plain absurd to black out a region just because many illegal activities occur there. By your logic the US should also be blacklisted worldwide since violent crimes are widespread there. Seriously, of all the idiotic solutions I've seen, this one completely beats the lot of them. ------------- And Polo2340, your speculations are really absurd IMHO. About the game becoming easier - all MMOs become "easier" as time passes. It's inevitable. It's necessary to keep the game fresh, to keep it alive. Your points about Mark Gerhard are just speculations mixed with your opinion, both of which I find ridiculous. The updates being made to "waste time"? For goodness's sake, has a commercial company ever "wasted time" and not made money? Seriously. Those updates actually made the game more aesthetically appealing and smoother to play. They make the gameplay experience a better one for players. Admittedly some were purely aesthetic and not exactly very beneficial to the gameplay experience, but still, how much time does it take to change a cursor's look? An hour at the very most? Your point about HP and Dungeoneering making RuneScape seem more like other MMOs. Honestly, RuneScape is still a very unique game to me. The HP system doesn't remind me of other games at all (though I could be biased since I haven't played many MMOs). I'd agree with you if the hits became huge splats/digits floating around the character, but that's just impossible with the current engine. Dungeoneering - It's merely a small part of RuneScape! 1 in like 25 skills or so. Yes, it is not the most original of ideas, but it's fun and new to RS. There's still SO MUCH in RuneScape that doesn't resemble other MMOs in any way. The crap about Jagex needing money and the game being sold to Microsoft or blizzard...that's pure speculation. And absurd at that, IMHO. Adverts in games, aesthetically appealing main page - those are just updates to make the game more appealing to (new) players, to earn MORE money. Face it - people are perpetually greedy, and if you think you can earn more cash with an update, seriously, why not? And the point about the game being sold to Microsoft or Blizzard - those are just rumours. As you said, similar to the rumours on sailing. Hyped up load of crap with no real evidence behind them. There's a Chinese saying "a 100 rumours/pieces of news can't compare to a single sight/experience". You are far too focused on what you are actually seeing. I'm just being open minded and predicting what RS is coming to and what Mark Gherard thinks etc. And I have always thought that Runescape would have to get easier as long as it is updated. I'm sure Jagex didn't come up with ivy expecting it to have the effect that it did. And players are always more creative than Jagex would expect and come up with efficient leveling, faster money, etc. than Jagex can realize. I think I mentioned this before but basically I can see how modifying a game that you don't really play would be hard; you don't see them from the same perspective. When I mentioned Jagex/Mod Mark trying to make RS seem like other games I wasn't suggesting that Runescape is already losing it's originality. I am, once again, being open minded and just thinking about what this could mean/lead to. And I don't want to take you're words the wrong way but it sounded to me like you were sort of trying to tell me why I was wrong about Runescape being sold. I don't think It will MOST LIKELY be sold or anything like that, I just think it is POSSIBLE based on my reasoning. Also, I said that rumors within the Runescape community are likely partially or completely wrong for a reason. I really believe exactly what you do, that there is no true indication that RS will be sold, I just am open to the idea that it could be. Obviously the thought of Jagex making Runescape more appealing is going around. And about that, I realize that it is realistic for every person/company to get greedy or try to make as much money as possible. I just noticed that it never appeared that way while Andrew Gower was CEO. Well of course Andrew wanted to make income to run the game as well as some profit, but he didn't put fancy banners and a "hot" homepage. It was just Runescape-like, just like the graphics were: simplistic but original. Though I was mentioning this to my friend in real life, and he pointed out that Andrew Gower is still the owner of Jagex, which means he could just fire Mark. I am being open minded so him pointing this out just makes it more interesting. Who knows what is the truth it's just some ideas/theories. Maybe Mark has a certain type of contract or deal so that he is guaranteed work for a certain amount of time? I haven't a clue to be honest. Tell me what you think. And sorry for making it sound like I was convinced these theories were right. Some of them I do see as likely or highly possible, but they are still just ideas in the end. So I hope that clears things up a little bit. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for sounding a bit harsh there, but I'm rather desensitised to it since most people here are spouting complete nonsense most of the time. Interesting point about Jagex not being able to see the game from the same perspective as players who play it much longer. But naturally, Jagex does have a better position to judge some aspects of the game, e.g. finance and such. Of course, in terms of gameplay, even rigourous playtesters don't play as much as many players, which is why Jagex often releases huge updates in a few phases, e.g. Summoning and Dungeoneering. I feel that some of the changes that are being made are purely coincidental. I've never really noticed it, but maybe it's because I rarely play RuneScape nowadays. I think that some of the changes to the main page could be positive. From my point of view, it seems that perhaps a fresh perspective (of Mark Gerhard) could allow Jagex to look at RuneScape in a different way. It's probably not about Mark's personal views. Maybe Andrew has been CEO for so long he didn't really think of looking from such a perspective - that rather simple "beautifying" updates could draw in more players, and when Mark came in he noticed the graphics weren't exactly "beautiful". Sorry I don't know how to reply without quoting this whole thing lol, but im doing this fast as im suposed to be doing homework, hence the speeedtypng and no time to fix errors lol. but anyway, i like the way you are thinking about mark, that could be true. but i really have no idea as to what the meaning of the latest updates as i'm only making some educated guesses. or just really bad guesses if they are wrong lol,
  6. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    No offence, but that's just [developmentally delayed]ED. Sorry for using caps, but seriously, what you're saying is just complete [cabbage]. 1. Sweatshops aren't even concentrated in Southeast Asia. They are mostly in China. 2. IP banning a whole region is just ridiculous. It clearly shows just how much thought (or the lack thereof) went into your statements. Is that FAIR to the people living there and playing RuneScape? It's plain absurd to black out a region just because many illegal activities occur there. By your logic the US should also be blacklisted worldwide since violent crimes are widespread there. Seriously, of all the idiotic solutions I've seen, this one completely beats the lot of them. ------------- And Polo2340, your speculations are really absurd IMHO. About the game becoming easier - all MMOs become "easier" as time passes. It's inevitable. It's necessary to keep the game fresh, to keep it alive. Your points about Mark Gerhard are just speculations mixed with your opinion, both of which I find ridiculous. The updates being made to "waste time"? For goodness's sake, has a commercial company ever "wasted time" and not made money? Seriously. Those updates actually made the game more aesthetically appealing and smoother to play. They make the gameplay experience a better one for players. Admittedly some were purely aesthetic and not exactly very beneficial to the gameplay experience, but still, how much time does it take to change a cursor's look? An hour at the very most? Your point about HP and Dungeoneering making RuneScape seem more like other MMOs. Honestly, RuneScape is still a very unique game to me. The HP system doesn't remind me of other games at all (though I could be biased since I haven't played many MMOs). I'd agree with you if the hits became huge splats/digits floating around the character, but that's just impossible with the current engine. Dungeoneering - It's merely a small part of RuneScape! 1 in like 25 skills or so. Yes, it is not the most original of ideas, but it's fun and new to RS. There's still SO MUCH in RuneScape that doesn't resemble other MMOs in any way. The crap about Jagex needing money and the game being sold to Microsoft or blizzard...that's pure speculation. And absurd at that, IMHO. Adverts in games, aesthetically appealing main page - those are just updates to make the game more appealing to (new) players, to earn MORE money. Face it - people are perpetually greedy, and if you think you can earn more cash with an update, seriously, why not? And the point about the game being sold to Microsoft or Blizzard - those are just rumours. As you said, similar to the rumours on sailing. Hyped up load of crap with no real evidence behind them. There's a Chinese saying "a 100 rumours/pieces of news can't compare to a single sight/experience". You are far too focused on what you are actually seeing. I'm just being open minded and predicting what RS is coming to and what Mark Gherard thinks etc. And I have always thought that Runescape would have to get easier as long as it is updated. I'm sure Jagex didn't come up with ivy expecting it to have the effect that it did. And players are always more creative than Jagex would expect and come up with efficient leveling, faster money, etc. than Jagex can realize. I think I mentioned this before but basically I can see how modifying a game that you don't really play would be hard; you don't see them from the same perspective. When I mentioned Jagex/Mod Mark trying to make RS seem like other games I wasn't suggesting that Runescape is already losing it's originality. I am, once again, being open minded and just thinking about what this could mean/lead to. And I don't want to take you're words the wrong way but it sounded to me like you were sort of trying to tell me why I was wrong about Runescape being sold. I don't think It will MOST LIKELY be sold or anything like that, I just think it is POSSIBLE based on my reasoning. Also, I said that rumors within the Runescape community are likely partially or completely wrong for a reason. I really believe exactly what you do, that there is no true indication that RS will be sold, I just am open to the idea that it could be. Obviously the thought of Jagex making Runescape more appealing is going around. And about that, I realize that it is realistic for every person/company to get greedy or try to make as much money as possible. I just noticed that it never appeared that way while Andrew Gower was CEO. Well of course Andrew wanted to make income to run the game as well as some profit, but he didn't put fancy banners and a "hot" homepage. It was just Runescape-like, just like the graphics were: simplistic but original. Though I was mentioning this to my friend in real life, and he pointed out that Andrew Gower is still the owner of Jagex, which means he could just fire Mark. I am being open minded so him pointing this out just makes it more interesting. Who knows what is the truth it's just some ideas/theories. Maybe Mark has a certain type of contract or deal so that he is guaranteed work for a certain amount of time? I haven't a clue to be honest. Tell me what you think. And sorry for making it sound like I was convinced these theories were right. Some of them I do see as likely or highly possible, but they are still just ideas in the end. So I hope that clears things up a little bit.
  7. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    OK now so much has happened since the day I posted this thread. I can easily shove 2004-2006 behind. And that might sound shocking, but here is why. Well first of all about Runescape getting easier: some perfect examples are ivy and living rock caverns. But the thing is, they came out fairly recently. So now the problem is that Runescape is dive-bombing into a different dark age. For some reason I forgot what the post specifically said or something but I remembered that Mark Gherard or however it's spelled is the new CEO which means he is the head honcho. For some reason I thought Andrew still was and Mark was still under his position. But obviously since Mod Mark became CEO that is when these weird/stupid updates started up. Let's think about what updates have happened since I last looked at this thread: -The hp (Constitution) update -New Skill (Dungeoneering) And besides those things I realized that Jagex wastes time coming out with stupid updates. Now I have been watching all of NightmareRH's videos, and he is certainly intelligent and I agree with most of his opinions. I noticed that with updates such as a new cursor, new hair cuts, weapon animations, the homepage, the forums (though I don't really know if I like or dislike it) etc. Jagex was just wasting time that could have been put into other important updates. But anyway, the HP update didn't cause any real harm to Runescape other than us players having to get used to it. Because in the core combat system you are still hitting the same numbers they are just displayed more accurately now. But what does this mean to me? It looks like other games. The way Jagex updates the homepage to make them so flashy, that shows they are focused on making RS look like the average game. Dungeoneering is somewhat original, but the whole concept of dungeons in an MMO obviously isn't! I personally enjoy dungeoneering so I don't mind either way. But we can all see that Runescape is looking like other games now. But that isn't the problem itself, it's that Runescape is not supposed to be like other games. That was part of the reason I like(d) it was for the originality. Another thing I've been thinking about is the new instant demo and the way the benefits/disadvantages of members/free are displayed. This shows to me that Jagex might need money. And of course you are thinking they make so much money off their subscribers, but running all the servers and what not is far more expensive than we (or at least I =P) can even imagine. So rumors/or just thoughts have been spreading that Jagex might close down Runescape. Now some people say this is because they see Stellar Dawn (formerly known as Mechscape) as a replacement of RS. And another theory is that the strange/ridiculous updates are just a warning of what is coming to us (weather it happens after or before Stellar Dawn). One last little rumor is that Jagex mods were discussing selling RS to Blizzard or Microsoft. Supposedly a forum thread was accidentally not locked for a short time and some people caught it. This wouldn't be a surprise as Mod Andrew only said Runescape had years to come, not that Runescape will always be controlled by Jagex. And it seems most major (not sure what to call it, companies, programs, etc.) rarely stay with the same owners forever. And even if Jagex is still making money off of Runescape, they still could feel that enough accomplishments were made. And maybe selling RS would just be a quick move to avoid losing money. In other words Jagex sees they messed up and players are quitting so they get it off their shoulders. Now if Blizzard ran Runescape it would probably be awesome, just not original. But then again it might still be more enjoyable than it is at the moment. WoW is a great game after all, and Blizzard could probably adapt to Runescape and still keep some of its Runescape-ness. And we all know how rumors are in the Runescape Community, just remember "Sailing-the new skill". So these are still just ideas. But overall, I've focused my attention on this current mess rather then what this thread was about. But maybe Stellar Dawn will have it's own "good ol' days". I'm looking forward to it, I hope it's good.
  8. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    its not like i take it that seriously. i dont cry about a game. im just making it more serious than it is because, well that just seems to be what everyone else around here does. and my childhood certainly didn't consist of just playing runescape.
  9. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    I pretty much feel like an idiot for even posting this thread. I admit it, this thread will never accomplish anything, i might just delete it (if possible). When I really think about it, the thought runs through my head that RuneScape is still what it once was, and I've changed. That's somewhat a valid point. The thing is, the sense of adventure I once had is not here any longer. And I know THAT is not because I changed. The old Runescape left many memories that I will never forget. Here is what shows something is wrong: Ever since around mid 2007 I've had no real memories. But on the other hand, sometimes I think it is an unfair assumption that new players do not have the same fun that I once did. It really makes sense that they would, at least in most ways. And I have obviously moved on from the wilderness pking because I play on the pvp servers a lot. The people who really haven't moved on are the ones who quit. But what I really wanted to say is that I think a new era of Runescape greatness will just happen once again. I can't quite explain what makes me feel this, but I have noticed everything, both life and something as small as a game, go through cycles over time. I seriously thought way before I heard from anywhere else, that temperatures were really just following their normal cycles. I've always thought Global Warming was a dumb theory to begin with lol. And now I've heard a million times that what many thought was global warming is really just weather cycles. Not trying to say I'm a genius if that's how it came across. But anyway, I think Runescape will either die completely, which is near impossible, or go through it's own cycle and reach another peak, possible higher than the last one. What does everyone think of that?
  10. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    Funnily enough, I watched that last night on hulu. Stupid thing was he ALWAYS finished his meal. When I start getting full (as every other rational person), I don't continue to cram food into my mouth. I don't force feed myself the other half of the super-sized fries. Of course you're going to have health problems if you force feed yourself. The other thing was that people don't eat at McD's 3 times a day. That's unnatural. They at least go other places and get other things. My point here - You don't have to play runescape. You can play WoW. You can play club penguin. You can (though not recommended) play on a private server! You have options because you're the consumer. There's your freedom. If you don't like those options, write your own damn game. Then, you can play it and tweak it as much as you want, even put it online and let others play too! Who knows, if you do a better job than Andrew, we'll all be moaning about the steps you took to combat RWT in your game in a few years. well believe it or not I am learning programming and developing my own mmo is a dream of mine.
  11. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    I completely take this back. It was harsh and not what I really meant. My fault. I really meant to say that your opinions aren't changing mine. Go ahead and post your opinions if you want. Some of your posts just seem to come across as "you're wrong and i just proved it, so gtfo the forums!" So you are saying that "The point of this thread wasn't to hear your opinions" does not at all imply that which is actually implies? That it doesn't mean what you meant? It's hard to believe that you actually mean that, especially since you are basically apologizing about this fact. Here's the thing, we know our opinions won't change yours. We are just here to point out the flaws in the thinking and logic of your opinion and get flamed for our opinion. that's fine. It just seemed that some felt they were going to prove me wrong. I just wanted to make my point. And I am saying that "the point of this thread wasn't to hear your opinions" was a stupid thing to say and I take it back.
  12. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    I would like to hear what are the better solutions to dealing with RWT... I've heard a lot of "veteran" players claiming there were countless ways to deal with this in another manner and never seen any option being proposed that would have made me think Jagex were wrong. As to the topic, some have already said it, everything you did back in 2004, you can do in 2010 except for the trade limits, old school pking or dueling. Your perception of the game has changed more than the game has changed itself. As for the declining number of players, sure there are less players these days than in 2006-2007, but back then you could find 10-15% being either bots or macros. Yes I pulled that number out of my [wagon],but anyone playing at that time can confirm it was a real problem and would ruin the gameplay of the majority. I still think this game is way better than at any other point since its launch. Then have your opinions, but I know there are others on my side. This forum is for them. And how many times has it been said, even if I am not a game developer, there are people who are paid to figure these things out. And of course Jagex says they think they made the right decision. Have you ever noticed they give typical responses to their players like any brainwashed business? They respond like machines, explaining things in a manner that is clearly not the truth. For example, I might ask "why do you continue to make skills easier?" and they will say "we are not really making them easier you are mislead..." and so on, even though we all know certain skills are becoming easier, or rather less time consuming. If you can't stand having your opinion challenged, then you shouldn't post on an open forum. Once again, you have dodged that question regarding better solutions (note that it was aimed at anyone claiming to have better solutions). As for "brainwashed business"... Welcome to real life and marketing ploy! A great portion of business will lie and make you believe stuff to get your money. This is nothing new and Jagex is not really different than any other company in that regard. I already said multiple times that I don't have a solution. Jagex should because they are paid to be great game developers. And I indeed think they are, just need to change some things. I mean come on, you kill someone and you get a penalty of a lower earning potential. That is completely idiotic, because then you are rewarded for standing and doing nothing as long as you're in a certain area with 26/76k. That whole system makes absolutely no sense. I would rather have to get a 100 kill streak and then up the EP than this garbage.
  13. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    I completely take this back. It was harsh and not what I really meant. My fault. I really meant to say that your opinions aren't changing mine. Go ahead and post your opinions if you want. Some of your posts just seem to come across as "you're wrong and i just proved it, so gtfo the forums!" I have a perfect analogy of how I see all this. I just recently saw the movie Super Size Me. It's about how America is fat off of McDonald's food. Its a documentary of a guy eating it three times a day for a whole month. He suffers major health problems gaining a ridiculous amount of weight. The movie sort of is a protest to McDonald's. Although people obviously will say it is a personal decision to eat McDonald's unhealthy food, and not get something healthier on the menu, that does not hinder the point of the movie. And obviously the obese customers will disagree with the movie, saying eating McDonald's is not the cause of obesity. The makers of the movie, especially the dude doing the experiment, knows it seems ridiculous to try and change McDonald's. He does not expect all the burgers and unhealthy foods to suddenly disappear, but he hopes some changes would occur. And everyone finds it ridiculous too. But after the movie was released some changes WERE made to McDonald's. Just as players (or the customers) disagree with my post(like the movie), it does not hinder the purpose, and I will not discontinue my efforts(like the movie was still made). And I do not expect Jagex's (or McDonald's) burgers to disappear. I just hope some could be taken away, or at least some healthy salads could come into existence.
  14. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    seriously guys, the point of this thread wasn't to hear your opinions. If you disagree with me don't bother posting, it's still here. Leave the space open to those who support. If nobody ever supports, that oh well, I would not be surprised.
  15. polo2340

    RIP OLD SCHOOL

    I would like to hear what are the better solutions to dealing with RWT... I've heard a lot of "veteran" players claiming there were countless ways to deal with this in another manner and never seen any option being proposed that would have made me think Jagex were wrong. As to the topic, some have already said it, everything you did back in 2004, you can do in 2010 except for the trade limits, old school pking or dueling. Your perception of the game has changed more than the game has changed itself. As for the declining number of players, sure there are less players these days than in 2006-2007, but back then you could find 10-15% being either bots or macros. Yes I pulled that number out of my [wagon],but anyone playing at that time can confirm it was a real problem and would ruin the gameplay of the majority. I still think this game is way better than at any other point since its launch. Then have your opinions, but I know there are others on my side. This forum is for them. And how many times has it been said, even if I am not a game developer, there are people who are paid to figure these things out. And of course Jagex says they think they made the right decision. Have you ever noticed they give typical responses to their players like any brainwashed business? They respond like machines, explaining things in a manner that is clearly not the truth. For example, I might ask "why do you continue to make skills easier?" and they will say "we are not really making them easier you are mislead..." and so on, even though we all know certain skills are becoming easier, or rather less time consuming.
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