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death666bl00ms

death666bl00ms

Member Since 10 Dec 2004
Offline Last Active Jun 15 2012 10:19 AM

In Topic: Item Flipping

23 February 2010 - 08:54 PM

Well sir, you are a pessimist.

Who never buys the drinks.

They wont say anything to your face about it.

But they know.



Pessimist or realist? I repeat, explain the world today. Heck, if you are more comfortable, explain RS today. It has been COMPLETELY changed from the beginning. How many of those changes have been in response to scanners, hackers, and cheaters?

In Topic: Item Flipping

23 February 2010 - 04:16 AM



Doing things for the good of society makes no sense and goes against everything that makes us human. So, if someone held a gun to your head, and told you that you must die so John can live, you would say "ok, I'll die" b/c John is doing more good for society? BS. You would fight to survive.

To say that people do things for society and not for themselves is ignorant at best.

Actually, I'd probably bend that guy's arm backwards at the elbow so that he couldn't hurt John. I don't think I'd trust anyone to save John if they'd already shot me.

We do do things for society. It's what makes us social. Buy your friends a drink? yep, you'll do that. Give a friend a kidney? Sure, all that second one is doing is making you drunk half as long anyways. Give a dollar to someone who claims to be getting fresh water to haitian orphans.... well, don't want somebody to see us not doing that. Take a bullet for a compleate strange in the heat of the moment? Maybe. Offer your suicide in the form of political protest? Heck damn no, that's crazy talk.

As per these examples, the magnitude of the sacrifice does count.



We? You got a mouse in your pocket? :lol:

While that may be great, reality is humans as a whole are selfish. People do not do thinks for society, they do it for themselves. It is capitalism at it's best. It is what America was built off of.




Doubt it? Explain the current economy then.....

In Topic: Item Flipping

23 February 2010 - 03:19 AM



So you basically said you're only applying the theory on the individual level, not so the overall societal effects may be observed. That makes little to no sense. Actually, doing things for the good of society makes little to no sense.

"not an all or nothing result" ---> i chose my example with care. Flipping is not an all or nothing result either, every person's individual choice has a slight macro-economic impact. thus all my conclusions remain valid. :D Wrong. Good try though. Once again, my statement is in regards to the "flipping is here to stay" concept. It is an all or nothing result.


That logic is fallacious. Flipping is not an "all or nothing" event. If I choose to flip, there is one more flipper, so more items are flipped. Flipping increases as does the inconvenience to others. You are the one at fault, and your try is creative, abeit disregards some vital factors.

you cannot selectively apply your theory to only a few events, for any logic or reasoning to function it must be applied unilaterally. Flipping is here to stay, but the effects of flipping are highly variable. That is where your theory is completely invalid, and your logic falls on its own premise.

My first statement makes COMPLETE sense, I must not have explained it clearly enough: you are selectively applying the theory. For every individual that chooses to flip, or not to flip, the overall societal effects of flipping change. If I put 3 billion into flipping rune plates, 3 billion gp more is spent on flipping rune plates, and the economic impact on rune plates is significant. With the GE system and individuals with capital, me flipping influences the prices and how they will update. I as an individual have a measurable efffect on that. I am not doing anything for the good for society, I perform an action, and it reflects upon society and how society develops.



*facepalm* You clearly missed both points.

Doing things for the good of society makes no sense and goes against everything that makes us human. So, if someone held a gun to your head, and told you that you must die so John can live, you would say "ok, I'll die" b/c John is doing more good for society? BS. You would fight to survive.

To say that people do things for society and not for themselves is ignorant at best.


"That logic is fallacious. Flipping is not an "all or nothing" event. If I choose to flip, there is one more flipper, so more items are flipped. Flipping increases as does the inconvenience to others. You are the one at fault, and your try is creative, abeit disregards some vital factors." Once again, you failed to miss what I was saying. The "all or nothing" means that flipping is either here, or it is not here. THAT was the comment I was referring to. Someone mentioned earlier that flipping is "here to stay", insinuating that it is, once again, all or nothing. Your example was something that is ALWAYS present, just in varying degrees.

Now, keep in mind I am not saying that I agree that flipping is an all or nothing event. My comment was merely in retort to the comment that flipping is here to stay.

In Topic: Item Flipping

22 February 2010 - 05:14 PM







Wasted vote theory. My not selling at min/max won't change jack.


Would you apply wasted vote theory to the global warming issue? No, because it is not an all or nothing result. It is not "If the majority of people go green, then Global Warming will not occur. Conversely, if the majority emit excess greenhouse gases, Global Warming will occur." It is more "Each person contributes to global warming in one way or another."

It does not function on a macro-demographic level, only on an individual basis. Agreed. However, my point still stands.Otherwise the conclusion is that everything is inevitable based on the size of the human population. Not following you on this one. I am looking solely at the individual level, not the macro level. And my point still stands. You can't tell someone to "vote for Obama, and he will be elected." That is flawed; your voting of Obama will have absolutely no effect to his being elected, as I will cancel out your vote.

This conclusion is clearly flawed, as individuals such as Nobel, Einstein, Keppler, Freud, Bush and Tiger Woods influence humanity as a whole to some extent. In keeping with the "wasted vote" concept, their votes are worth much more than yours or mine.



So you basically said you're only applying the theory on the individual level, not so the overall societal effects may be observed. That makes little to no sense. Actually, doing things for the good of society makes little to no sense.

"not an all or nothing result" ---> i chose my example with care. Flipping is not an all or nothing result either, every person's individual choice has a slight macro-economic impact. thus all my conclusions remain valid. :D Wrong. Good try though. Once again, my statement is in regards to the "flipping is here to stay" concept. It is an all or nothing result.


In Topic: Item Flipping

22 February 2010 - 02:03 AM





Wasted vote theory. My not selling at min/max won't change jack.


Would you apply wasted vote theory to the global warming issue? No, because it is not an all or nothing result. It is not "If the majority of people go green, then Global Warming will not occur. Conversely, if the majority emit excess greenhouse gases, Global Warming will occur." It is more "Each person contributes to global warming in one way or another."

It does not function on a macro-demographic level, only on an individual basis. Agreed. However, my point still stands.Otherwise the conclusion is that everything is inevitable based on the size of the human population. Not following you on this one. I am looking solely at the individual level, not the macro level. And my point still stands. You can't tell someone to "vote for Obama, and he will be elected." That is flawed; your voting of Obama will have absolutely no effect to his being elected, as I will cancel out your vote.

This conclusion is clearly flawed, as individuals such as Nobel, Einstein, Keppler, Freud, Bush and Tiger Woods influence humanity as a whole to some extent. In keeping with the "wasted vote" concept, their votes are worth much more than yours or mine.