Radicap

I was going to give this post the cursory "another introduction post once-over" then I noticed...you wash cats for a living. That's awesome! Congratulations on finding a job that you enjoy so much, and good luck finding homes for all the kitties.

I agree wholeheartedly with the third article. I don't agree with everything Jagex does, but I do enjoy the game, and most of the recent updates have been underrated. The problem is that when players are happy about an update they don't go to the complaints forum to whine about it, so we don't hear from them. It was nice to for a change.

Yes, I'm going to continue my subscription. However, this poll should have three answers. "Yes, but I won't buy spins," "Yes, and I'll buy spins as well," and, of course, "No." I won't be buying spins, but not because I disagree with the update. People have been saying for a while that Jagex needs to do something about the grind. Granted, this is probably a bad way to go about it, but you have to admit it's something.

My response isn't directly on topic, since it's about the ge and I'm mostly diy, but I do get nostalgic about the pre-ge days. One thing I'm not entirely sure I like is the way Jagex holds players hands now. There used to be randomly placed signs to warn you that you were entering the wilderness. Now there's a wall to climb and a big ass warning screen that pops up. Funny thing, though, is people still manage to get lured. So to answer the question, I guess over all no, but I like to reminisce sometimes.

If you're being paid to work and you're playing games (or other non-work related things like forums, facebook, etc.) then it's theft. The only justification I can see for it is if you're salaried and you're allotted a certain amount of personal time during your shift, or if you're paid per job and the job still gets done. I can almost see the point being made for afking skills in the background while working, but if I were the employer I'd still terminate someone for that.

To whom?

While there's no problem with casual gaming, I don't think it's a good idea to expect to gain access to content unless players spend some time doing the game. I agree with the comments that Platinum made about trying another game. It's obvious that RS doesn't suit everyone . If players feel the need to bot then it doesn't take a genius to work out the game isn't for them. If this is the mentality that one brings to any mmorpg, then I don't think simply playing a different one would help. For example, for those that may play WoW instead of, or (as I do) in addition to, RS - why do you have to be level 70 to raid Karazhan? Or, even worse, level 80+ to solo it. What about players that want to casually raid endgame content (even if it's no longer endgame like the example given)? The same issue can be seen with Star Trek Online, Dungeons & Dragons Online, Lord of the Rings Online, etc. (Wow, I just realized how big a geek I actually am.) Anyway, my point is that if you feel you have to cheat through the grind in order to access the "good" parts of the game later, then maybe there's no mmorpg that's right for you-or mmog for that matter. To extend the point with a bit of reducere ad absurdum, why play games at all? One could even make the argument, by the above logic, that digging through the deck in solitaire is not really cheating because the game doesn't "get good" until all the aces are out.

Regarding the second article, it's a slightly over-simplified (understandably so, to relate it to the game rather than the real world) lesson in economics, and overall a very enjoyable read. It almost makes me want to see a server reboot to see the economy development in action.

The difference is that the Louvre gives visitors permission to bring cameras or recorders and take photographs of the exhibits. The movie studios don't give online pirates permission to make copies of their work, and Jagex does not give permission to players to cheat at their game. It goes back to agreement of the terms of purchase. It should also be pointed out that while the Louvre owns the Mona Lisa, the French government owns the Louvre, making it public property. Wow, talk about missing the point. Ok, let's say the Louvre or even the French government proclaims "Since we own the original, selling photos of the Mona Lisa is illegal". In your childish view of the world, is it now illegal to sell photos of the Mona Lisa in any country? Is the French government RIGHT to make such a law? If your only distinction between right and wrong is that some law exists, you've got a naive view of the world. Laws are made by men. As such, some laws are just and some are corrupt. What we as noble persons should do is strive to do the right thing regardless of the law. When what is the law and what is right do not intersect, it is incumbent upon the noble persons to try to change the law back to what is right and just. Now, is it right and just for what Jagex is demanding about it's game? For the most part, yes. However, they make some idiotic judgements at times. Something stupid like "Playing Runescape while playing the XBox is AFK and is a bannable offense". On the other hand, I don't think it's right how a program just removes the need for a player to be present. In the middle is this happy medium where a majority of players wouldn't bat an eye at the gameplay one way or another. Again, this isn't about what Jagex or the law of whatever country says, this is about what's right and wrong in a massive online role playing game. I haven't missed your point, I'm just not articulating mine very clearly. It's hard to do without derailing the thread. To keep it on topic, suffice to say that because Jagex doesn't give players permission to cheat botting is immoral. In an ideal society with objectively defined and rationally applied laws, it would be illegal. With that, I'll stop the artistic tangent before it goes too far.

The difference is that the Louvre gives visitors permission to bring cameras or recorders and take photographs of the exhibits. The movie studios don't give online pirates permission to make copies of their work, and Jagex does not give permission to players to cheat at their game. It goes back to agreement of the terms of purchase. It should also be pointed out that while the Louvre owns the Mona Lisa, the French government owns the Louvre, making it public property.

Except robbery is a criminal act, while Jagex would be issuing a civil suit against you. As far as I know, Jagex hasn't actually reach the level of court with any persons who bot/ people who distribute bots. Perhaps you could show me credible proof otherwise. PS, I think the "You wouldn't steal a car" videos are equally foolish. You wouldn't steal a candy bar is more like it. http://forum.tip.it/topic/307200-jagex-limited-vimpulse-software-eric-snellman-and-mark-snellman/ everything in that video is true, you can actually get hard time for downloading. It also has alot to do with morals, breaking the law is breaking the law, just because its a small crime its not ok. Just say "You wouldn't download a car" and "You wouldn't download a bike" to realize the idiocy of these ads and mentality. Really, it's the modern day equivalent of saying that taking a photo of someone is stealing their soul. You have not denied someone their property. Saying that someone is stealing your soul by taking your photograph is a silly superstition. Saying that they are stealing from you if they download your intellectual work without paying for it is fact. It doesn't matter if you deprive someone of the use of their property, the buyer and seller must agree on the terms of purchase, and if those terms are not met then it's theft. The example you give below makes my point more obvious, but it's the same point even if you download solely for personal use. So you're saying that expecting the courts to uphold the law is "dirty work?" We, as citizens, voluntarily give our right to retaliatory force to an objective government, which in this case means criminal and civil courts, in order to see to it that laws are upheld fairly and impartially. The only exception to this is self-defense in the event of immediate threats. This is not "dirty work," it's their job, and it's what our tax dollars pay for. (This is actually meant to be the function of a proper government. The myriad ways in which they fail and are getting worse is an entirely different matter.) To bring this back to the issue of botting - setting aside for a bit the question of whether the bots themselves are illegal per-se, by playing Runescape one agrees to follow Jagex's rules, including the rule against botting. Those are the terms set by Jagex (the seller) and agreed to by the player (the buyer.) Therefore, the use of bots means that the player is not sticking to the terms of purchase agreed upon, and is therefore stealing from Jagex. It's that simple.

Personally I see no problem with it at all. It's just like the FBI hiring Frank Abignale Jr. (See the movie "Catch Me if You Can" for his story.) If you can't beat 'em, pay 'em to join you.

No, f2p can't get members' items. If the spin lands on a members' item an f2per must subscribe to claim it or discard it to get another spin the next day. Otherwise it just sits there unclaimed and you can't spin again.

Now that the toolbelt holds many skilling tools, including the spade, you may want to point out in the quest guide that having a spade in your toolbelt WILL NOT WORK for digging up the book on Dragontooth Island. I found out the hard way, and it cost me 25 extra ectotokens, so GF on me. Hope it stops others from noobing it up as I did.