Hey Smokey I know you said that your looking for basically a community clan, and in the end my clan probly is not the greatest choice for you at all. I invite you to check us out, to see if we can sway your opinion :wink:. I am part of the blacknights, and we are a f2p warring clan (which are mandatory) But we do have a pretty good, active, mature community that I am sure you will enjoy, best way to do that is come by our IRC at #blacknights. Its almost always active and here you can chat to our leadership, members ect or just generally hang out. We also have our own forums at: http://theblacknights.com and have our own TS which is for members only. Like I said I dont expect you to join Blacknights, as we are the complete opposite to what your looking for. But come by our IRC, chat to our community and maybe we can change your mind. Thx for your time, good luck on the search. Best regards Dave