This is the first time I can recall that i have jumped into this F2P v. P2P argument, but some of the things that I have been reading on this thread and others lately have left me completely befuddled, but here goes: I am P2P and have been for a very long time, here's a few things that I have picked up from my experiences: 1. The people that I LEAST want to post on RSOF are the members who are so closed minded that they think F2Pers who have the patience to get 12.5 million exp are spamming whiny twelve year olds who will make the forums worse than the disgustingly bad state it is already in. I am completely in favor of making a level or experience requirement for all players, regardless of paying status to use the forums. 2. Only extremely selfish people are upset when F2P gets one of its few updates per year. That is like buying an expensive car with a high tech computer system, 500 horsepower and a jet engine, and then getting upset when Toyota decides to give the Camry like three extra cupholders. 3. When F2P thrives, P2P thrives. I'm sure Jagex can attest to that. I know that membership fees generate a vast majority of the company's profits, but pure monetary profit is not the only way to look at it. Everyone's first experience is F2P, the reason that they become members is because F2P is such a good game in itself. Nobody in their right mind puts off getting P2P because they can have teleblock, or they can have adamant arrows, or they can post on the forums. People don't get members because they don't want to pay the money, because they have no means to pay, or because they play enough.