Orbital2

lol..i still remember when they first added a chat filter to rs period. Was getting all kinds of messages from my clan members **** ******* **** ***** **** ****** * ***** ****** *****. Stuff like this takes a long time to work out (in jagex's cases..years) just have some paitence with the new system :P

come on drave not mentioning bk?..Considering ive fought and seen fight all the clans on ur list I'd have to point out that the razors and the messiahs aren't really in the same class as the rest of the clans in ur list. The messiahs were just annoying * and the razors weren't anything spectacular, they didn't really have significant staying power. The only thing special about those 2 clans is they were 2 of the first pking clans to die out within a short time period :P...theres no justification for putting the messiahs and razors over any clan like say exer, mi, or say tds other then the fact that they just happened to be in the very early periods of rs as opposed to later down the road. (and ps..the sabres were plenty strong..creating a new char back then didnt really mean anything as we werent that high anyway..and alot of ppl thought it was cool to have the name of ur clan in ur char name and loyality/publicity was increased...the name thing has only been a problem from about the foundation of the wilderness on..when the sabres went downhill lol) I highly disagree with you there Orb. Messiahs DOMINATED the sheep fields and scorp pit in the early days of RS. As far as the razors they were a force early on in wilderness as far as pking went. and if you didn't read all my post "May be more I have forgot since it has been a LONG time now. But " BK was good in thier time I admit. but never left a strong impression on me. Since I don't play anymore I could care less about "orb ftw" darkemporor or whoever you are ( ya who the hell are you btw? ) unless you have something of the least bit of intelligence to say ... :wink: the only ppl the messiahs owned were younger players just starting out..they were no match for the forces that opposed them (sabres and the Nkka) and u say bk "was good in their time, but never left a strong impression on u" I was never aware that bk's time had ended lol. So a clan that existed a few months until they were completally wiped off the face of rs made more of an impact on you then 1 of the 3 longest standing clans on rs (the others being Gladz..and 'the' although theres an arguement to be made about their standing in the transition from mili to cj). The clan that was responsible for the founding of the Syndicate and the Second Syndicate and a clan that has consistantly stood as one of the most powerful in rs (unlike rsd who comes in then fades out then comes back in :P).

come on drave not mentioning bk?..Considering ive fought and seen fight all the clans on ur list I'd have to point out that the razors and the messiahs aren't really in the same class as the rest of the clans in ur list. The messiahs were just annoying [bleep]s and the razors weren't anything spectacular, they didn't really have significant staying power. The only thing special about those 2 clans is they were 2 of the first pking clans to die out within a short time period :P...theres no justification for putting the messiahs and razors over any clan like say exer, mi, or say tds other then the fact that they just happened to be in the very early periods of rs as opposed to later down the road. (and ps..the sabres were plenty strong..creating a new char back then didnt really mean anything as we werent that high anyway..and alot of ppl thought it was cool to have the name of ur clan in ur char name and loyality/publicity was increased...the name thing has only been a problem from about the foundation of the wilderness on..when the sabres went downhill lol)

'The' is older than the BK :P. Just accept that we're the oldest Purely RS clan, Emp ;) Yea BK definatally entered the main scene shortly before 'the'...cyberwars is for friggin n00bers :) p.s. all you ppl mentioning Gh are making me wet..

very very well put..I don't think any single clan ever had such a dominance over rs for their time period then BDK did , di is certainly worth mentioning as one of the greatest clans and they have proved to have far more longetivity then BDK because the clan actually has some sense of loyality to one another. BDK was huge but the leaders didn't have any respect for the clan members and it was a huge mess. BDK did pretty much take on the entire clan world by itself and won (without returning 30 times that is :P ). Honor wise of course BDK..particularly zar and robin..had none of it. That is of course the 2nd BDK we are reffering to, The first BDK which were "rivals" to the Wandz back in the pre wildy days did nothing but get beat around all over the map by them lol

maybe a good clan at the moment but not legendary..lots of clans have 200 members registered it takes longetivity and impact on the clan world, u guys have come along way though (still remember when u guys were level 80s and i singlehandedly defeated u on one of ur pks..infact u had to call in more ppl to fight me in single combat before your eventual retreat..) but hey..every clan has to start somewhere :P

#1 how would u know what clans logged and xed..it was your first clan there were handfuls of true pk clans that "dominated"...much more and for a much longer time period then MI did...BDK, RsMob, RSD to name a few..you obviously #1 have no knowledge of the clan world, #2 like making up your own rs history #3 are a little caught up in the oh so dominant 1 month time period in which your piece of [cabbage] clan survived #4 need to sit down, shut the [bleep] up, and let the people who actually know what their talking about continue this thread

lol yea theres "honor" for ya..

lol never seen me step in the wild eh? Must not have been in it as much as u claim :P. I had 700 times the effect on the clan world that MI had lol. As for clan "honor"..dont even question what I know about it, I was fighting for clan honor long before u ever stepped foot outside of lumbridge lol (leader of the nkka army in the fight against the messiahs..). I led along side King Sabre, Militant, Lady kalika and all the other old honorable clan leaders. I kickstarted the founding of the second syndicate alliance with an alliance between my clan the golden helms and BK, and eventually established my own alliance after its downfall that was the most powerful on the game for its time and during that establishment I took the helm was Leader of 'The' Clan. As a BK I still managed to stay in the forefront, fighting in the last alliance against bdk, and fighting rsmob and even yes your clan MI and never did i 'x' or log or any of that bs that u claimed to have established with your cabbage clan that lasted a month max. I have been making an impact in the runescape clan scene for over 5 years now..if you never saw me in the wild you obviously weren't looking very hard i dont care what you did you then neither were rs m8s, lone pking was the thing to do. I didnt see you in the wild and you cant change that, not my fault, i didnt ask for your life story neither did i tell you you did nothing to clan history, you just went into defence mode rofl :oops: Never did i hear or see your name on the game and i didnt post on the forums :P didnt live in the wild like we did, and i dont care what clan impact you had, and dont claim you've been playing rs longer then me rofl. maybe i was pking b4 u even stepped outta lumbridge :P but i wasent into clans back Mi in there time scared every other clan to war them, shot up from place 0-1st, Only clan with honor. You say you had honor but whats that without a clan backing it up? nothing, whats that with no1 following you? nothing. You may have tried and failed but we succeded, maybe the time when you tried was to hard for no logging since the items cost to much, maybe no1 but you knew about honor, you were unlucky and failed to make a clan MADE/BASED on honor, we made it first. Did you kick clan members for logging? nope, we did 8) telling me what i did and did not do is kinda funny, logging and xing and what not was always looked down upon and very few clans put up with their members logging MI succeeded in falling apart in a month and never winning a war thats about it. You claim your clan was the first to have all these honorable rules yet you also admit to not being into clans initially so how would u really know?

lol never seen me step in the wild eh? Must not have been in it as much as u claim :P. I had 700 times the effect on the clan world that MI had lol. As for clan "honor"..dont even question what I know about it, I was fighting for clan honor long before u ever stepped foot outside of lumbridge lol (leader of the nkka army in the fight against the messiahs..). I led along side King Sabre, Militant, Lady kalika and all the other old honorable clan leaders. I kickstarted the founding of the second syndicate alliance with an alliance between my clan the golden helms and BK, and eventually established my own alliance after its downfall that was the most powerful on the game for its time and during that establishment I took the helm was Leader of 'The' Clan. As a BK I still managed to stay in the forefront, fighting in the last alliance against bdk, and fighting rsmob and even yes your clan MI and never did i 'x' or log or any of that bs that u claimed to have established with your [cabbage] clan that lasted a month max. I have been making an impact in the runescape clan scene for over 5 years now..if you never saw me in the wild you obviously weren't looking very hard

you know NOTHING about clan history NONE of those rules were revolutionary in any way. And even if u didnt lose the war winning 1 war doesn't make u legendary either, ive won more wars singlehandedly lol no one put me down on this list

lol MI was a joke, yea they were powerful for like a month and then they disbanded, those type of clans are a dime a dozen, you have to have atleast a little bit of staying power to be considered one of the greatest clans of all time, and as far as allowing members to pk each other on non clan trips..thats EXACTLY how the "clan" failed

:? People dont switch servers because they fear Di,they switch because they dont want a fight a battle in which Di will not stop returning. There is only about 10 true experienced pkers in Di,a few of which retired already.Unless you call experienced calling more and more people in a p2p fight until they win. As for the forums,its a great community,however dont ignore the fact that it is biased in many ways :wink: lol its not really fair to compare BDK and DI, Having fought both numerously in my time. If your baseing this on strength (which excuse my perceived arrogance, but if your compareing these 2 clans as the best ever then your baseing it on strength rather then the other aspects which make a clan great) BDK while they were functioning were UNBEATABLE, thats it..you just didn't beat them. Yes Di is highly successful in the wild but they have never had the strength to beat as many clans as BDK did the day they took on the last alliance lol. Di has had far more success as far as staying power, no doubt there, BDK was led by a couple of the biggest rejects in the history of the clan world in Zar and Robin, quite frankly making up rules that leaders can pk their own members who are training in wild if they are training in the place a leader wants to train is destined to end up a train wreck lol. You could also attribute Di's staying power however to the fact that people are just more dependant on each other in the rs2 wild. In rsc single combat between 2 ppl, yea there were rangers and mages but its not like anyone ever used those 2 wasted skills in that era. RS2 forces more dependancy on the clan then rsc ever did (hey a single person could run into an entire clan and not be killed by them on rsc) Its less about the individual egos now and more about the group which has been a benifital thing for DI and i think in general all clans and it has really helped their staying power. You'll never again here about a single rpker dominating both sides of a war by himself ala Rsmob vs aod war with Zar Family 2 (he couldnt have had inventory space to even hold all the rune plates he pked that day lol, sucked at pking after that though)

Omg Orbital you're newb 1. King Rage 2. King Rage 3. Lady Kalika 4. King Rage 5. Raichu guy (NPPK?) 6. King Rage 7. King Sabre 8. Militant 9. Ice Sabre 10. Cold Sabre (He wasn't even a leader, but he's better than Orbital) 11. Ceasar guy (Juliusceasar maybe?) 12. Orbital2 ahem and who of those on that list are still around and in the clan scene significantally? thats what i thought Didn't know it was still the pre-wild era? You haven't gotten much smarter since I met you 5 years ago Orbital ;) the point is they were soooo successful in the pre wild area that they didn't survive to see clans today lol you haven't got much better at perception since i met you 5 years ago rage ;) and its RYUSHU, he led the NKKA (I led them into actual combat)

Omg Orbital you're newb 1. King Rage 2. King Rage 3. Lady Kalika 4. King Rage 5. Raichu guy (NPPK?) 6. King Rage 7. King Sabre 8. Militant 9. Ice Sabre 10. Cold Sabre (He wasn't even a leader, but he's better than Orbital) 11. Ceasar guy (Juliusceasar maybe?) 12. Orbital2 ahem and who of those on that list are still around and in the clan scene significantally? thats what i thought