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Save the old Runescape websites!

06 August 2010 - 02:33 AM

Hello, my name is Meili and I am an old Runescape player who started playing this game way back in 2001. I joined Tip It in the same year and I first announced the creation of my RS fan page Meili's Runescape Pictures in these forums. I come to you now to inform you of certain things and with a plea to help our RS websites.

Newer websites are copying content from the old, original websites

Now, you may not be aware of this but there are old websites from 2001 that still exist today. In fact, these websites are important because they are the only genuine source of information such as news, screenshots, stories and history from old Runescape (2001-2003, mostly).

There are also newer websites. Now, since these websites are new, they obviously have no real old content from the beginning of Runescape. So they are forced to do some research on the internet and find out information from other websites - in other words they take content from the old, original RS fan pages published long ago.

The newer websites rank higher in search engines

Since the new websites are more active and they are frequently updated, they rank higher in search engines such as Google compared to the old and no longer updated RS websites. Also, more people link to them than the old, genuine RS websites.

The copied content is never attributed to the source and the old websites are never linked

The problem is that the new websites almost never cite their sources properly. They don't tell people where they got the information from and they don't link the old, original sources of information. Some have even blatantly copied or lifted content straight out of the old Runescape players' fan pages and passed the content off as their own.

Please help our old Runescape websites become more known

Now, I ask you, is this fair? Should newer websites grab stuff wholesale from old websites and get all the web traffic?

I think not! Here is what you can do:

- Visit the old websites.
- Write something about them and/or link them in your blog, Facebook, Myspace, website, wiki, etc.
- If you are involved in the current RS websites like the wiki, fan forums, RS guides, etc. please cite and link your sources.

Here are some old websites to get you started:

http://www.geocities...unescapegrudge/ - Old as dirt, this webpage is 100 percent genuine and was published way back in 2001. It shows the black hole, a punishment for banned players.

http://www.oocities.com/timmymwd/ - The original Runescape clan history

http://oocities.com/mowbuss/ - A website that looks very amateurish (its the same with most old RS websites lol!) but has tons of content, including Jagex news that has now been removed from the official news archives. Lots of pictures of RS players and it has RS classic guides.

http://ladymedusamoldfield.50megs.com - Absolutely unique content. This website was made by Ladymedusa and as such is the original source of all these pictures. It shows an in-game wedding with Paul Gower officiating. if any old players are here, they might remember reading all about this and seeing the system message about the wedding. P.S. So many players attended that it made many people's clients crash.

http://samppa.ifastnet.com/ - Incredible stuff nto found elsewhere, pics of old holidays, bunny ears drop and scythe drop, 100 percent real and not fake.

http://www.anzwers.org/free/jagex/- Meili's Runescape website, in other words my page. Note that the original version of this was first published in 2001 (old geocities website). Also, this is basically the only authentic source of information about the knife bug and the "mmm" bug. All the others I have ever seen are all copied (without linking or citing my website as the source) from it.

Feel free to add links, I love visiting old RS websites. Personal RS websites are good, too.

Note: I am not saying that newer websites should stop getting content from the old ones. In fact,I want to encourage this because if no one links or quotes the old websites no one will be able to find them. So feel free to go to the original sources of old RS content and talk about them, quote them, copy pictures, etc. but please link to them properly.

P.S. This is for all the old RS websites that in my opinion have not gotten the recognition that they deserve. Personally, I would also greatly appreciate it if you would make two links to my website one with the words "Runescape knife bug" (http://www.anzwers.o...gex/knives.html) and the other one "Runescape mmm bug" (http://www.anzwers.o.../jagex/mmm.html). Honestly, I am a bit fed up that other websites took my stuff and never even said where they got it from.

Thank you!

Runescape Classic Pking and Why It Was So Good

15 November 2009 - 01:46 PM

OK, now that RS Classic has been revived, let's get this party started!

Runescape Classic Pking and Why It Was So Good (part 1: The Basics)

Runescape Classic Pking

With the recent revival of RS Classic, I thought I would look back and identify what we love about Runescape pking.

Parts 1 and 2 deal with basic things for those who have never experienced Runescape Classic pking so those who already know about it can skip that and go straight to part 3 for my analysis and commentary.

In Rsc there were two eras of pking : Pk Everywhere and Wilderness Pking

PK Everywhere!

At first there were two types of players Player Killers (Pkers) and non-Player Killers. Pkers are those who can be attacked by other pkers who are within three (was it four? lol) levels of their own, except in certain safe areas such as inside towns.

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In the picture (click on it to see a bigger picture), you can see a big war in the Barbarian Village with pkers and non-pk spectators. In the background is a Tip It forum post about the war. See what Tip It looked like way back then. :)

If a player did not want to be attacked by others, he simply toggled off his pk option and no one would be able to attack him. However, you could only toggle this twice. So if you switched to pk then panicked and switched back to non-pk (normally while being attacked and dying to a pker), you would be stuck in non-pk forever.

This is probably the original reason why people made separate skiller and pker characters in Rs. Obviously, if you were doing skills like mining or crafting, you wouldn't like to be pked so it would be good to skill on a non-pk char while making another char that was a pker so as to enjoy competing with other players.

Since there were also level requirements regarding who you were able to attack, players made not just one pker but several of different levels.

Note that when players died in RSC, they drop their items and these are looted by the pkers.

Wilderness Pking

Not everyone was really happy with the Pk system so Jagex proposed a new and improved PK experience: the Wilderness. A player poll was made and the RS players voted to remove the old system and make the wilderness.

Simply put, now pking was limited to an area, not a type of character. Any player now could bring their character to the new place, called the wilderness and pk there. All non-wilderness areas were now impossible to pk in.

Level requirements were still in place but in a new way. The southernmost part of the wilderness was level 1 and you could only attack players who were within 1 combat level of your character. The farther north you went, the higher the wilderness level. Therefore in this system the player was less limited and could attack people plus or minus 1 to 45-50+ (depending on whether you were in f2p or p2p) combat levels of their own character.

This removed the need for the pk and non-pk character types.

Essentials of Runescape Classic Pking

Kill and loot. The system is very basic and easy to understand. You pk and if you are lucky enough to get a kill, you get whatever your kill drops. Those who do not have a skull will lose all but their 3 best items while those who are skulled lose everything. Protect items prayer allows the player to keep 1 additional item when he dies.

2 billion bank = 131 combat

15 November 2009 - 06:33 AM

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I have been playing RS and posting in Tip It since 2001. :) My personal RS website is one of the oldest, it's so old the original was in Geocities!

I assure you that my links are perfectly safe, Jagex has linked one of my topics before with my links on it.


My blog:


My very old RS Classic website:

RSC Guides! get it here

13 November 2009 - 02:46 AM

So people can remind themselves how to play and not get confused with RS2.


It's got all the old guides for RSC. :)

Girls Don't Exist on Runescape

16 July 2009 - 02:05 AM

I am a girl on the internet.There really are quite a few of us.

Women have had a long history in Runescape. Many of the first players and famous people were women in real life. The first smither who got 99 smithing was Bluerose13x. She was extremely powerful and rich during her time since she was literally the only source of player-smithed items.

The first person to get 99 fishing was Tks and all the top crafters were also women. Women in Runescape are everywhere, as old school players, clan leaders, skillers, pkers and player moderators.

Yet in spite of all this, the female RS players must contend daily with the opinion that she does not exist.

"There are no girls on the intarwebs!"

"You aren't a real girl."

"I don't believe you are really a woman."

Why this persistent belief that nobody female would ever play RS? Do we need the XY genes to click a mouse? Obviously not, yet I have met many, many players who are genuinely convinced that female RS players cannot possibly exist.

The reasons are many, varied and also rather pathetic.

"All the girls I know irl don't play games, they just go out for meals."

This is an absolutely genuine reply I have gotten from a (presumably male) RS player. Yes, he really thinks women do nothing but go out for meals.

When the RS player insists that, yes, she really is a girl, the replies are entirely predicatable.

"No pic no proof."

"You're not a girl if u don't show us pics."

"Get on ventrilo."


Men do not need to go on ventrilo/webcam or show their pics to everyone who asks just to prove that they exist. Why do women have to bother?

One time I joined an IRC channel for a Runescape-related community. Right away, I got kicked. Then again and again until I gave up on reading the final message (and the reason for the kicks) "[bleep] off, there are no girls on the internet." Another reason I have been kicked from IRC -"[bleep] or gtfo."

Comment please, either here or in my blog http://stripeybank.blogspot.com/

I would really like to know what RS players think about all this.