Okay, they have real problems to live... Knowing their OWN situation they have to realise they're doing damage to people whom are most likely not even associated with their problems to begin with. Why should the account theft victims, credit card fraud victims, legitimate players and even Jagex itself take the blame and suffer? I know my background so I can tell what they're going through. For their supporters, assume this analogy: A parasite thrives by feeding on other organisms. You have contracted a virus which you can either treat and immunify against or let it grow, spread and kill you. I think the choice is clear. :-k