phantasmo3

after my failed attempt at a visage, i decided to do some thieving im 74 as of now and paladins keep getting me almost every other time, even with gloves of silence what lvl do they stop being such a pain? im gonna do pyramid plunder for a bit, but i was just wondering what lvl i need to be before i can train effectively on them?

i did try seearching before hand but found nothing thanks for the info guys :D

does anyone know the drop rates for visage on steel and iron drags? i know its rare, but i would like to know before i spend a few mil on the runes to camp there till i get one