Excellent! thank you everyone and especially pureprayer. That's what i was looking for; some in your face math to prove which was faster. I believe I'm only going to keep playing pest control until i get full void and perhaps for hp xp from time to time, and soul wars will be purely fun. I'm kind of glad they did not create a mini-game that you could actually effectively train slayer with. Doing as such would take away from the prestige of the skill.