this is the first post i started with if u want to look at the idea before looking on the site for the rest of the posted comments support and counter reasons. I have 149 days till I have my veteran cape. I'm thinking about trying to start a movement to make the veteran cape better. More like the Completion cape but a tad lower in stats. Most people say the veteran cape is fine where its at but most people that have the veteran cape are maxed players that had a comp cape way beforehand so it seems pointless to have once your going to just use the comp cape. Completion cape = 3% Critical all, 9 Prayer, 46 Armour, 100 Live Veteran cape = 1.5% Critical all, 0 Prayer, 3 Armour, 0 Life ^^^^^^^ SHOULD BE VVVVVVV Veteran cape = 2-2.5% Critical all, 6 Prayer, 23 Armour, 50 Life Most people bring the argument the a veteran cape is a free cape that anyone can have, but I think their wrong. This cape might not take the work that a Completion cape might take but it takes a equal amount of patience to obtain the veteran 10 year veteran cape. I personalty know a few high ranked players with completion capes and most do not had a veteran cape and a few are working toward a 2nd player getting a completion camp and are over half way their on their noob. players such as dovelly (L1L D0ve '1/2 maxed noob'), Paper bag, Cynder76. all have the completion cape but do not have the veteran I agree with the argument that the completion cape is harder work and takes more effort to get and the veteran cape is a free cape in since but port armors are the best in the game and their free and can be obtained in just a few months. I agree the comp camp needs to keep its tittle of the top cape in the game. This will open a idea of being able to add the newly revised veteran cape to the completion cape though a right click combine option. veteran completion cape = 5% critical, 15 prayer, 69 Armour, and 150 life. You can just say adding the new stats of the 2 capes together. It also possibly opening a bunch of new cape looks for the new veteran completion cape for the new runescape 3 and html5!