ok so heres my problem i have got to the end of the grand tree and i have died while facing the demon and i thought well if i go back in maybe i'll just doit again but when i went backin nothing happend and i tried talking to mpcs around and no help just the same and i don'thave the key or the sticks does this mean that i am stuffed or is there a point i have to resort to?

just go back down the ladder and walk around a bit right there till glough comes back .. then kill the demon.. if mage/range hide behind rocks to the south of the ladder you came down.. but there is a timeout when the demon will leave.. just take a hit up close and hide again to reset timer

ok i'll try it but i think i did do that and now glough just ses u shidn't be here go awa human and nuthing else and some onther mumbo jumbo that is not relevant

wooo idid it thnx alot for ur help anyway mybe i just hit a glitch a couple o times thas all