OK ... so i noticed a few people using harralander tar as a viable method of getting herblore up and it costing less i think? If this is wrong and there is a more cost affective method that is medium paced for xp. please suggest and try give me an idea of loss per 1k made. my main question is this : tip.it calculator tells me i need 37,000ish harralander tar made for 88 herblore. My problem is, i am unsure whether this means i need 37,000 harralander, and 15 x that in swamp tar, or whether it is 37,000 completed harralander tar, which would be 37,000 tar and 15 x less that in harralander. someone please help me :( thanks, Ginger bits/ Xplosiv6