Ok for those who think its impossible to take the flag from a holder when they have a few ancient mages with them its not. First off, teamwork makes it alot easier. Before the game started i explained, if the other team holds their own flag a group of people just circle them so you can limit the ancients effectiveness. This is called flanking for those that don't know. It is very easy to do with just a small group (5 or so) Ancients are only effective when you group together. That is why most people die so easily to them. They don't think about the face, an ancient is weak when he can only attack 1 person at a time.
