The first time i tried was like 1 hour ago. i had: karil coif (i want to put neitznot in its place for prayer) glory blk d hide top "" bottom rune boots blk [bleep]ey vamp karil's x bow 1k bolt racks :XD: (im bringing 2.5k 2nd run) duel ring (how many recoils should i bring.. should it be jad only?) my range is 70, im bringing 5 sara brews, like 20 super restores, and 3 range pots. im too poor to afford guthans and stuff.. any suggestions? *first post in my tip.it history lol* oh and any money savers? ive heard that rune c bow + addy bolts can save me money, picking em up doesn't seem like itd be too troublesome anyway.. edit: I mADE it to wave 36 before leaving, (knew i didn't have enough bolt racks to make it to jad... -.- )