This is already the wrong attitude. Go to w148, w28, some other Dungeoneering clan, etc. if you're just trying to get away from w117. Simply put: Unnecessary arrogance and stubbornness will guarantee that you never do a floor with a ranked keyer in DGS. Once you prove that you're a capable dungeoneer, yeah, you can be a little bit arrogant. However, to come into a clan chat requesting floors (precisely as the guidelines discourage) from w117 is another story. We do provide the services of teaching other, newer dungeoneers; if you want to learn, you will need to listento ranked keyers, and you won't get that opportunity without showing some respect. I look forward to (preemptively) meeting you, too. Hello to you to Moon. First off, didn't request a floor, just simply said "Hello guys, I'm looking for a dg team :) then got kicked. How else am I supposed to enter the chat? Request first thing to not be kicked immediately? Come on, I was assuming that I would have an opportunity to announce who I am and what I was about; instead I was immediately removed from the channel. Now, it seems that there is a bit of a bandwagon affect going on here, loyalty to individuals who made a hasty decision. So I will do the logical thing and take a break for the night, I'll join the chat tomorrow. I am not arrogant; I find no "pride" in my ability to play this game. I do not think that this is game is or will ever be a major accomplishment of my life; it was simply something that I did and do when I have had surgeries over the past few years. However, I find it odd that you stated that I have an arrogance issue, yet you blatantly stated that this clan offers "services, or by definition, opportunities which others cannot provide. Did you not just give me ample opportunities for similar groups to join? Seems this is not an original service which is provided, so why did I take interest in such a group? I did not chose to take interest in this clan because of its originality, I chose it because of the presence of those involved and the past which I feel I have had with those in this community. Is this clan not just individuals who have a common interest; to be in a friendly environment and be efficient at the same time? The purpose of this skill is to work together; it is not performed efficiently with just a single person. It is not a service of a single entity to be offered; instead it is the conglomeration of the many individuals. Now, I am not here to aggravate others, or to be confronted for so-called mirrored issues of my pride or arrogance. I simply stated that what was done was both unwelcoming to a common community member, as well as, frustrating because of the lack of support which I had assumed would be present by reading the first post on this thread. I understand that what was done, is to deal with an issue, perhaps put on the first post to state xxxx when first entering the clan chat the first time to announce yourself as a tip.it member. Thanks for your understanding. I truthfully am looking forward to working with others who take pride in not just leaning about efficiency, but by practicing it to its fullest potential. I look forward to talking to you tomorrow. -Bow