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My fault. I mistook what he said in my original reply.
Troaccid was saying it is better for everyone if you can keep the trees respawning one after the other.
I was saying it is better for you if you go find a tree on your own, because you will get more logs faster.
ie. I'm selfish
Yeah I'm done arguing too and it's troacctid not troaccid
Oh and I.E. isn't supposed to be the summary of it. it's basically for example... i.e., e.x., e.g. are all the same thing just said with different words. e.x.=for example, kinda self explanatory. e.g.= exempla gratia, from latin meaning for example. and i.e. = id est, again from latin, meaning that is.
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My fault. I mistook what he said in my original reply.
Troaccid was saying it is better for everyone if you can keep the trees respawning one after the other.
I was saying it is better for you if you go find a tree on your own, because you will get more logs faster.
ie. I'm selfish
Yeah I'm done arguing too and it's troacctid not troaccid
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and to the other guy... that's exactly what I'm saying, the person with the least wc lv will still get less logs/hour because there are so many, it's easier just to find an emptier patch... there are tons... less so in f2p, only way I've played, but there are still some hidden spots that not everyone uses.
That doesn't contradict what I said at all, though.
I'm saying that either way you could get less logs / hour, more likely if you all cut at the same tree... so I would just find yourself a tree, start cutting, then maybe talk some while you wait for another to respawn, just hopefully the tree you happened to pick isn't one of the ones that only has one yew, but hopefully like 6 at least.
and to the other guy... that's exactly what I'm saying, the person with the least wc lv will still get less logs/hour because there are so many, it's easier just to find an emptier patch... there are tons... less so in f2p, only way I've played, but there are still some hidden spots that not everyone uses.That doesn't contradict what I said at all, though.
I'm saying that either way you could get less logs / hour, more likely if you all cut at the same tree... so I would just find yourself a tree, start cutting, then maybe talk some while you wait for another to respawn, just hopefully the tree you happened to pick isn't one of the ones that only has one yew, but hopefully like 6 at least.
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why is there no mention of the oak trees by varrock west bank?
there is, says there's a nice little forest by grand exchange if you actually read it.
and to the other guy... that's exactly what I'm saying, the person with the least wc lv will still get less logs/hour because there are so many, it's easier just to find an emptier patch... there are tons... less so in f2p, only way I've played, but there are still some hidden spots that not everyone uses.
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Related to this. The number of people chopping the same tree only affects how long the tree can stay alive, not how fast the people chopping it obtain their logs. That means it actually is better to keep all the players chopping the same tree, to stagger the respawn rates in such a way as that the most amount of time is spent with at least one tree standing. So uh, yeah, it's more to your advantage to keep everyone on the same tree, not to run to the other one they're not chopping.
about that, if you stay at one tree with everyone else and they are all like 8 levels + higher than you then you'll spend forever at the treee to get like 1 log... whereas some other people might get 7 from the same tree, also the number of logs from a single tree is random, I once got only 1log from a yew i was chopping by myself which I watched spawn. another time I got 10+, so what you said was a total lie.
tell me if I took it wrong but this seems to be what you're saying.
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Not gonna quote it because well, I don't wanna, but ok whoever just was talking about being overzealous. anyway like this guy with all these helpful hints. :
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For example, the spot you included from ssdm is almost entirely useless.
I just looked through the updated guide and didn't see any of my places so what are you talking about?
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Ouchy's F2P Guide To Firemaking and Woodcutting!
Written by: Ouchy_S
Table Of Contents
Starting Off
Recommended Clothes And Inventory
Training Spots For Woodcutter-banking you logs
Training Spots For Woodcutters-dropping or burning your logs
Places To Burn
Inventory Set-Up
Types Of Tree's
Types of Log's
*NEW* Wood Cutting For Profit
Fire Making-Slower and Cheaper Version
Fire Making-Faster and More Expensive Version
Keep Your Cool
How To Beat Bordem
Someone Stole My Line!!!
Thanks and Corrections
Tips And Tricks
FAQ
Starting Off
[hide=]First off you must decide whether you are going for fire making, wood cutting or both. If just fire making you must have a fair wad of cash kiddies. Not just 20 gp. But at least 1m+ depending on your goal level. You must also decide whether you want quick and fast and expensive way to level which involves using logs to the best of your ability that have high exp or go a bit slower for cheaper with more expirence using logs lower than what you can burn. OoOoOo. Hard isn't it?
For wood cutters you must have the right axe and possibly the attack level to wield it if you want to get 1 more log each run. You must also decide if you are going to drop your preciouses or bank them. Cash or expirence?
But if you are doing both you must decide if you are going to use the logs that you chop to burn your li'l fingers off or buy additional logs.
Both of these skills take time and money. Don't expect to reach you goal over night. Work for it you lazy bums![/hide]
Recommended Inventory And Clothes
Clothes And Inventory for Fire Makers.
[hide=]A wise man once said that looks were everything. Yea. But this wise man is a fool. Being as light as possible is everything. Fire makers can really wear what ever they want as long as they are close to a bank-more explained on this later. But if you are trying to go light weight you should wear random event clothes and holiday clothes. Both weigh nothing and are a definite chick magnet for you boys out there! Ok... there not but still. Your inventory should consist of a tinder box! Wow never would of guessed! You need a box tinder thingy me bob so you can light you logs on fire! Yum. You should also have 27 of whatever type of logs you are burning! Funny that-more on this later on.
Here is what i would wear and have in my inventory:
You don't have to dress like me but your inventory should always stay the same with the box tinder thingy me bob in it's place to prevent wristy going sore's.[/hide]
Clothes And Inventory for Wood Cutters
[hide=]A wise man once told me that looks aren't important but keeping light in weight. Well the bugger was right!
Wood cutters should always wear light weight clothing as sometimes you have to go a little way to bank your fresh cut sappy logies to disintegrate in your bank. Oh you sop! Don't Cry :notalk: . A wood cutter should wear the same clothes as a fire maker. Light weight clothes such as holiday and random event clothes. These look pretty snazzy and you will be the light of the party =]. You should be wielding an axe thingy to chop the trees. If you cant wield the axe you want to use then have it in your inventory.
I would wear this:
Although you can change the clothes,change or remove shield and axe if you want if you don't have or cant wield/use the snazzy rune axe that I have
[/hide]Training Spots for Wood Cutters-banking your logs
[hide=][Levels] Start off in the forest next to Draynor village. Get used to Draynor Village and its trees because you are going to be here a lot. It is full of normal trees so you little munchikns can start your chopping dreams!
When you have a full inventory go to the bank and ,well, bank!
Alternatively you can cut here:
Head over to the Grand Exchange and just outside the entrance there is this mother load of tree's.
Bank when needed
[Levels] Same place, different tree. Go to the forest next to Draynor and chop oaks till you are level 35. If you stop at 30 and start chopping Willows you will find it looooong and PAINFUL :wall: !
Once again bank your logs.
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Yes. Oh noes! Guess where are you? Draynor Village! Never been here before have you? Start chopping the willows by the water. This area is usually crowded so change world when necessary and bank when necessary. If you are a level 3 skiller watch out for the dark wizards that are there for the level 3 bots-which have died. Stay near the back if this is you you silly skiller!
[Levels]
Yes! It's True! Your finally out of Draynor! Now your up with the big boys. Chopping yews. It can at times be slow but you can go back to your little willows if you want :shame: nah i'm just kidding! :thumbsup: . Head over to Edgeville and chop the two Yews inside in the crumbling house. Ekk! If there are two many people then simply change worlds.
Bank when needed.[/hide]
Training Spots for Wood Cutters-Dropping or burning your logs
[hide=][Levels]
Head over to the forest North Of Alkaharid, South of Varrock, and East of the The Champion's Guild. Once again get familiar with your surrounding's as you gonna be here for a long time. Chop the normal trees till you are fill and drop or burn when you need to. Burn from along the path just after the gate to Al Kahrid
Alternatively you can cut here:
Head over to the Grand Exchange and just outside the entrance there is this mother load of tree's.
I know I know, I put it in the banking your logs section but it so 1337 you can use it for both
[Levels]
Same place dummy! Just chop oaks! Gosh! You got like 3 feet of air! Drop or burn when needed
[Levels]
Head over to Draynor Village and follow the wall to Port Sarim by the farming patch. Chop the willows. These are rarely used anymore as the bots that used them left-for now =p. Drop when needed.
Also head down behind the prison in Port Sarim. There are a few trees here for you kiddies!
South of Rimmington there are also a few willows to chop and get splinters in your li'l fingies =] I recommend these willows as they are close to a general store and have a good clean run at fire making:
Here are the spots
[Levels]
You are close young one! Head over to Melzars Maze in Rimmington and chop the yew tree's beside it. Drop or burn when necessary. Burn from the start of the path, just don't have a bath!
[/hide]Places to Burn
[hide=]Edgeville:
Pros: Near to bank, lots of space to burn
Cons: Not as close to a bank as the Grand Exchange, gets a bit lonely as there aren't as many people there.
Grand Exchange:
Pros: Doesn't get lonely, lots of space to burn, very close to bank
Cons: Noob-cakes trade you asking to buy burnt meat xD
Draynor Village:
Pros: Doesn't get very lonely. Close to a bank
Cons: Only one to two lines available.
Falador West Bank:
Pro's: Many people can burn there, big open space, next to a bank.
Cons: None.
Varrock West Bank:
Pro's: Right in the action so it doesn't get lonely, close to a bank.
Cons: Only 2 lines available.
Duel Arena:
Pro's: Very close to bank, and quick access, not much competition.
Cons: Only two lines available.
Fist Of Guthix:
Pro's: Close to bank, big area to Fire Make, many lines available.
Con's: Can get a bit laggish and the designated worlds.[/hide]
Inventory Set Up
[hide=]Different people require different inventory set-ups when Fire Making. Some like the traditional one Tinderbox, others like many. There are more ways to Fire Make then listed here, you can experiment yourself, although I am listing the most common
Traditional Set-Up
Most people who are new to it use this way. It is alright if you get use to it, but if you change it is hard to go back.
Likelihood of Carpal Tunnel: 4/5
Middle Set-Up
A lot easier to use then the Traditional set-up, and my personal favourite. It is good because you are never moving your mouse the full distance
Likelihood of Carpal Tunnel: 3/5
"Inverted" Traditional Set-Up
I have never tried this myself, but some people say that it is equal to or better than the Middle Set-Up. Looks effective though.
Likelihood of Carpal Tunnel: 3/5[/hide]
Type Of Trees
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Tree: Exp. Gained: 25
Required level: 1Recommended Level: 1Where to chop: Draynor Forrest
General Information: The newby tree that everyone stars off with. Good for chopping when you first start. But when you have your big boy axe you should realise when to stop
Oak: Exp. Gained: 37.5
Required Level: 15Recommended: 25Where to Chop: Draynor Forrest
General Information: Next step up from your frooby tree. Quite fast and in a plentiful supply for everyone
Willow: Exp. Gained: 67.5
Required Level: 30 Recommended: 40Where To Chop: Next To Draynor Bank or South of Rimmington
General Information: Arguably the best tree in the F2P world. They are often used by people who are training there Fire Making as well as people training Wood Cutting. My personal favourite tree.
Yew: Exp. Gained: 175
Required Level: 60Recommended: 75Where To Chop: South Of Falador.
General Information: The slowest tree of the lot. Is quite hard to cut these for experience but they are quite nice for cash, time permitting of course.[/hide]
Types Of Logs
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Normal Log: Exp. Gained: 40
Required Level: 1Recommended: 1General Information: The log everyone starts out on. Easy to obtain, not recommended as a training log
Oak Log: Exp. Gained: 60
Required Level: 15Recommended:20General Information: Next step up from the Normal Log. Not recommended as a training log
Willow Log: Exp. Gained: 90
Required Level: 30Recommended: 35General Information: Most commonly used log. Easy to obtain, recommended as a training log
Maple Log: Exp. Gained: 135
Required Level: 45Recommended: 50General Information: These are cut from P2P tree so you can only obtain from a player. Recommended as a training log.
Yew Log: Exp. Gained: 202.5
Required Level: 60 Recommended: 65 General Information: The best F2P log available. They are rather expensive so not recommended as a training log.[/hide]
Wood Cutting For Profit
[hide=]Unfortunately, Wood Cutting for profit is not for everyone. You need to have a high Wood Cutting Level of over 75 to efficiently make efficient money, and 37 Magic is recommended.
Where to Wood Cut For Profit?
The spots you are going to use are both located South of Falador. We will be using the Rimmington Yews and the Yews South of Falador.
IMAGE HERE.
I recommend that you bring a Falador Teleport, as it will save time which means more Logs Per Hour.
If you follow this method, you can get about 150k+ an hour.[/hide]
Fire making-cheaper and slower version
[hide=]For 1-15 buy 61 normal logs at roughly 40 ea for 2.5k off the grand exchange
For 15-30 buy 183 oak logs for roughly 20 ea for 3.6k off the grand exchange
For 30-99 - yes, 30 to 99. Your burning willows baby! Buy 144,679 willows at roughly 20 ea for 2.96m off the exchange.
For45-99 buy 96,096 Maple Logs for 3.84m
These prices are always shifting but the amout of logs needed will always be true, unlike you =)[/hide]
Fire making-more expensive and faster version
[hide=]For 1-15 buy 61 normal logs at roughly 40 ea for 2.5k off the grand exchange
For 15-30 buy 183 oak logs for roughly 20 ea for 3.6k off the grand exchange
For 30-45 buy 535 willows for roughly 20 ea for 10.7k
For 45-60 buy 1573 maples for 50 ea for 78.8k
For 60-99 buy 63,016 yews for 418 ea for 26m-yes the price of a party hat![/sarcasm]
These prices are always shifting but the amount of logs needed will always be true, unlike you =)[/hide]
Keep your cool :evil: !!
When fire making and wood cutting keep calm! If you are cutting and you never get any logs then just change worlds or tree's. If you are fire making and some one starts to make fires right in front of you stopping you then just let them! Go change worlds. Have a coffee. But what ever you do, do not get emotional
How To Beat Bordem
Yeap, the most common problem of skilling, bordem. There are few thing you can do to beat it.
1. Listen to music: Yea, 'bout 20 other guides have said it but it does work. It often takes your mind away from the clicking repetitively and makes you calmer
2. Surf the web: Looking at other sites, such as the tip.it forum often relives bordem. Also don't stay on it for too long!
3. Take a walk or do some exercise: Often the best option . It releases endorphins which make you feel better and gets rid of any stress
4. Skill with friends: This is a good option and allows you to chat with friends at the same time
Someone Stole My Line!
Ah yes, the infamous problem of someone stealing your line. There are many way's to over come this common problem.
1. Fight For your right: If they burn in front of you, burn in front of them. Sometimes, just spam them, yell at mindless junk and keep trading them. Another thing is to tell them that you were there first.
2. Change World: Probably and the easiest of them. Won't make you look like an idiot, but one is still fun =P
Thanks and corrections
Tip.It for there calculators to work out the prices and number of logs necessary.
Thanks to Xx_Psychotic for suggesting the willows south of Port Sarim.
Thanks to zaaps1 for suggesting the willows south of rimmigton and the correction in the title
Thanks To BiJay for giving a detailed description on how to burn your logs
Thanks To Aludron For Giving Me Permission to use some images in the types of logs and tree's section's
Thanks to Legosimx for suggesting the tree's outside the grand exchange.
Tips And Tricks
When firemaking to save time and to stop having to constantly stop and burn the logs you can only to stop burn once then you are on a clean stretch. Burn your first log like normal and then click on your tinder box. As soon as the fire is lit click on the next log and you should instantly start another fire. Repeat this to the end to save time and get more exp. in an hour. Eg. Click Box - Click Log - Click Next Log - Click Box - Click Box - Click Log - Click Next Log - Click Box - ...
FAQ
Q. I read in a guide that when using a snow globe it destroys a fire making area. Is this true?
A. Well, yes and no. It used to be true during the Christmas Event in 2007 but since then the event has been removed and it is no longer a problem =]
I found a new place for willow logs, if you want it,the zoomed-in, and zoomed-out.[hide=]zoomed-in
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would look like this:
I tried it out shortly after I took this picture, and it works well, so it's worth a shot.[/hide]Nice guide, btw, I didn't look at all the other posts to check for this, but here is another good place for woodcutting and firemaking combo.
[hide=]Here is a zoomed-in view of the area.
btw fire lines start on right, or east side of red line.If you dont know where this is, here a zoomed out view, it wets of the lumbridge general store btw.
[/hide]Here's another wcing and fming/dropping spot.[hide=clicky]8 Willows, most of the time totally empty, just north of the crafting guild.
[/hide]Oh and for the buying the logs part, you can buy 144k willows (99fm from 1-99) for only about 2.5m, you dont have to add this though.
Thanks for the guide :thumbsup:
you forgot to add in that its awesome to fm at the duel arenafist of guthix lobby is a good place to burn logs too.btw ouchy u should put if they wanna gain firemakin faster cut cuttin logs tell them to cut yews sell them and buy maple i got like 3100 maple for like 4 loads of yewAnd there it is. Sorry it took a bit longer than I expected it wouldn't allow me to post as soon as I had written the message before. I made text small so the message would take up less room, just take out the size html and you're good.
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Ouchy, I'm about to post again, after this i mean. In it I'll just put the whole code for the guide and almost all of the updates people asked for.
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Huzzah, I am going to update this tomorrow.
Should consider waiting. Tif is still working on the forums, all information will be lost on the transfer back.
Even this post that I am typing now will be lost.
In that case ouchy, save a copy of the html code for when it comes back, I will too in case you dont get the chance.
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ok here we go...
[hide=camo AKA random clothing]
[/hide][hide=Combat robes]
Sorry I couldn't get actual magic robes, but I was cut for space in bank so.[/hide][hide=runecrafter's robes]
[/hide][hide=runecrafter's/monk robes]
[/hide][hide=monk robes only]
[/hide][hide=nothing but pickaxe]
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Sorry for saying this, but random clothes are horrible for weight, they way tons. A good nonmem setup is either wear monk robes, and runecrafter's gloves and hat. full runecrafter's robes, or only monks robes, or even nothing at all. Check it ouchy and youll see im right...
Give me a minute and I can get some pix for you to use. and a weight to show you just how heavy random clothing is.
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for one, all these ideas use alching I think, so grand exchange values don't change alch amount too much. well maybe they do, but i don't think so.
Anyway, I hate rapidshare, and decided to help some people out with this, a mediafire link, it the same thing just different uploader.CLICK HERE.
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ok I found the guide..
really in-depth, and towards bottom, there is infact ideas to beat the boredom.
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I have a couple of questions having to do with woodcutting.First......where is the best place to cut willows?(not draynor). What should i do to get 64 woodcutting to 70? And woodcutting is really boring. So what can i do while woodcutting?I guess thee are all my questions please answer.
if I can find it, I'll post a link but there is a woodcutting/firemaking guide soemwhere on the forums...
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more ram for sure, 2gb will suffice. and you might want a newer video card ( you didn't give info on that)
I'll try to get some, but my processor is only like 133mhz i think.
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ok, and the non swiftkit idea didnt work, also I had an okay recording a month or so back. made a range training guide.
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Don't record while on Swiftkit. Trust me with hypercam you will lag ALOT. Or try out SnagIt or Camtasia. And don't have any programs except Rs and Hypercam/recording system running.
I'll try out the not use swiftkit thing, but I've seen non lagging videos with hypercam, and camtasia costs.
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why waste time when you can buy.
he already said runes cost too much and take too long to mine, so why would he spend about 300-500k on 1k talismans, if not less.
anyway, I say just mine, with about 60mining if u nolyfe about 4hours you can get about 1-2.
I think Al Kharid warriors drop a lot of Earth talismans.nah, they drop rarely. definitely guards, ive seen body talis on the ground about 3-7 times an hour, when i was crafting my ess..
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I had the same problem, get a better computer with more ram.
why not just get more ram? way cheaper... anyway that doesnt help. I have tons of ram free.
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sorry but this is a pointless topic, the drops are random for all three pieces.
like for example
at minotaurs I got 3 within like 20-30 kills, then later i tried and got one after near 150 or so.
the drop rate doesn't exist it's random. that goes for all drops btw
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I need help.
whenever I try to record anything with my recorder, runescpae laggs too muhc and it becomes blocky.
below are my specs ask anything you want, and can someone please help me?
OS: windows xp
program: SwiftKit
recorder: HyperCam 2
RAM: 512mb, I have about 180 at least while recording btw.
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ye no problem, and thanks to you to...
Although I don't woodcut much anymore since i got to 60 in wcing and fming, I would have liked to have read this guide before I did that... Might have saved me some time.
good luck to all you wcers out there, I'll keep you guys posted of any new spots I find.
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you know it would be way more helpful to have one of the capes form edge, not only do they look way better, they easy access to those not wanting to go into the wild.
found around the wild ditch by edgeville.
Ouchy's F2P Guide To Firemaking And Woodcutting! ~ FIXED ~
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You had to have expected an answer like this, so here we go.
There is no THE best fm place, it depends on time of day, world, actual date, how full the server is, that kinda stuff, there's about 30+ ideal places that noone thinks about.