All, In your blast furnace guide, you say to sell your noted ore to ordan to then buy it back. But you can 'use' noted ore on him to un-note it cheaper than sell/buy. When you use the noted ore on Ordan, you get a 1/5/10/X requester for how much you want to un-note. You can only un-note up to the free spaces in your inventory. So, if you have 28 noted ore, and EXACTLY enough cash to un-note it, you can still only do 26, as you only have 26 free slots at that time. You then get told the cost of un-noting, then asked if that's OK or too expensive. Click on OK, then you see yourself saying 'It's a deal'. Only AFTER you click that dialogue closed do you get the ore unoted. Clicking anywhere else, ie to move, select an inventory item, etc, will cancel the whole thing (as per normal). Costs per ore are: Copper - 10 Tin - 10 Iron - 8.5 Mithril - 81 Silver -37.5 Gold - 75 Coal - 22.5 Any halves are rounded down, so un-noting 10 iron will cost 85gp, but un-noting 1 will cost 8. So, you could save a lot by un-noting one ore at a time, but the slow-down factor caused by the dialogue you have to go through would really make that for the severely patient player only. Hope this helps spme people, Gez.