Creation hammers? whats that? :P Sorry, i just got back from a long time break so I'm not so updated :oops: Gosh, I hate smelting really so I'll think I'll skip that and just go with the bars,just checked the price on mith bolts in the G.E market and it pretty much evens up the cost of the mith bar (you get 15 tips per bar right?), the bad thing tho, their hard to sell away :/ Thanks for the advice, keep them coming :D *EDIT* Also, can someone tell me where the best smithing location is which is near a bank?