Might as well stick with the rune cbow and use broad bolts.... especially for training. Earlier post mentioned maxing 17s at aviansies without special.... that isnt worth it, since I hit better regularly with broad bolts and 85 range and a special that hits harder wont make up for that fact. I feel the special is a 2 point issue. On one hand, yes, you can hit higher and you have 2 specials, but the dark bow hits its own special in ONE hit, meaning you can pick off someone much faster. Zaniks cbow is not as much money as the dark bow, however. I wouldnt spend the time with it personally....