I thought i would just mention that PvP worlds are not a new idea, infact it is one of the oldest Rs ideas that the Gowers had. When Rs first started all worlds in RsC were Pvp there was no wilderness because you kill another player anywhere on the map. I dont remeber much honor about then either. But that was probably because i was trying to mine bronze to sell to delendrose at 20gp a bar for a full set of steel. With all the updates to fighting techniques (anything after rune, or past basic arrows or normal spells) have forced Jagex into changing the wilderness. I noticed a mention to the old 3 hit then run rule, this was fine when 3 max hits couldnt kill a 99hp or even 80 hp acc but now 3 lucky/unlucky hits (or even 2) can kill even a max lvled opponent. Everyone sights pker`s as having lost out. But if i remeber right people only started to create pking accounts around 2003, and therin lies the problem. Pking has in a sense always been the first mini game. Its something done for a bit of fun. Oh and just to give the "old school" pkers a bit of hope i still fight in the "honor" way, not because i want to give you my items (or equilivent) but because it dosent matter if i die it is fun to play around for a bit. Plus my usual tactic of higher lvl player hunting normally reduces my life span quiet a bit :ugeek: