Heh, well I used about 4-5 hours getting ranger void, and it ended up being pretty amazing O.O My normal max with broad bolts at 84= 24 With Void- 28 O_O I didn't try out melee void, because 10% didn't seem like much, and nowadays I train slayer. (question, does melee void stack with salve ammy?) Mage void....I gotta think about that lolz.... It gives 30% ACCURACY, which would probably be helpful training with ancients... The bad part is it would take about 7-8 hours to get one set, but you'd end up with 200k-300k ^^ Anyways, your options?