After being a lurker on these forums for 2 years, and a runescape player for nearly 8 years now i have normally kept my opinions either to myself, or within a rather small group of well informed friends.. however on this occasion i felt it worthwhile to register and add my thoughts to the discussion. Regarding Whips Vs Godswords. I have maxxed Melee Combat 99/99/99 with 70+ prayer (i flash piety for pretty much every monster/task i am concentrating on). - emachine10 in the highscores - chat is always on. i typically use a terrorbird on tasks as, when concentrating i tend to be running much more than fighting and need the energy + extra inventory spaces. So far with a whip during my slayer tasks, my max hit is a 50 - whilst a strong average hit is anywhere from 20-44. id estimate around 10-15% of my hits range in the 44-50 category, and the vast majority of hits (say 50-70%) hit for anywhere between 20-44 (44 is my max without flashing piety) with super sets my combat stats are all at 118. and i usually pot when they drop below roughly 107. an entire task of perhaps 160 nech's can use as little as 5-10 prayer points if you are efficient with prayer flashing. with a godsword my personal max has been a 72 hit with an AGS special attack, a mere 22 damage above my whips max hit. i am aware it is possible to do more damage than this (i do not own full melee void) however the chance to hit 70+ on an 80+ sided dice (effectively how the runescape combat system operates) is rather low - enough so to negate this potential extra damage entirely. at this high end/max tier of play the large speed bonus of the whip over the godsword is INCREDIBLY useful, much more so than a bit more accuracy or a bit more damage, with hits from a whip topping out at 1/3'rd of some top end monsters hp. The picture built in a suitably informed mind reveals that a godsword simply isnt that great. i have used a whip for Bando bashing, Jad bashing (dont reccomend it) pk'ing, slayer training, dragon slaying.. pretty much everything. i vouch for its so far unbeatable effectiveness in nearly all melee applications (other than the obvious few situations where CRUSH is needed) my points may be presented in a bit of an untidy fashion, for this i am sorry its been a long day and its pretty late here :P