I completely disagree with you. If you stick to it, you can achieve it. I have gone through acquiring one without having any rares beforehand, and I've seen many other people who have also. Your truth is a lie. You buy Phats with StreetPrice, not G.E. price. Starting out as poor gets you nowhere close to the SP unless you learn to flip. Wrong, Phats can be bought at G.E price, it is incredibly hard, but it can definately be done. Do you know why phats rise in ge? Because enough of them are being sold to rise. I'm not quite sure how G.E updates work, but it has something to do with the quantities being sold or whether its sold or not. For example, look at the rarest item in the game.(http://services.runescape.com/m=itemdb_rs/Christmas_cracker/viewitem.ws?obj=962) In 180 days, it's probably been sold in g.e under 5 times. Hence the price doesnt change.